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Incognito46 - take the time to fill in your "About Me" page

it helps a lot in determining who we are dealing with in dialogue. I appreciate the sentiments you have outlined, thank you. In this blog, where I make no attempts to convert anyone to anything, I feel someone has to speak up as a counterbalance to religious lunacy. It restores my faith in the human race to see that there are others who are of simular mind.

posted by gomedome on June 19, 2006 at 8:36 AM | link to this | reply

Original Sin is the biggest con (and biggest joke) out there

Messing up some innocent life is actually worse than a joke, it's absolutely sad. I could go on and on about the others listed in your post but you covered it pretty well.

Good writing and great thoughts Gomedome. Using a sense of logic and awareness which is not very common I am afraid to say. I have only been here a week but I felt that I have made a friend.

posted by Incognito_Jones on June 19, 2006 at 8:00 AM | link to this | reply

David2006 - do you have any idea how crazy you sound to me?

You speak of these outlandish stories involving angels and different heavens as if they are absolutes. As I have said to many a devout believer when they leave comments such as this; I will not support your delusion. If you find this position rude, so be it. Appreciate that I find someone leaving comments that assume I am buying into any of this contrived nonsense equally rude, though I am certain that this is not your intention. I live in the real world, what mankind has fabricated over the centuries to help them understand the world around them is not real, don't assume that I will be a willing participant to this fantasy world.

posted by gomedome on June 19, 2006 at 7:41 AM | link to this | reply

Money is the Real God of Organized Religion

People miss the point as they always will. You must have the Spirit of God to understand all these things rightly. Yes, there is an immortal deduction . . . that is an immortal way of thinking. Money motivates most religious people. They don't give a **** about anything else. God confused the tongues of the ancient world to keep them from learning too early from evil spirits that existed in the second of first heavens that is the sky and the Solar system. He temporarily reversed the act on the day of Pentecost. As far as Spiritually speaking in tongues is not for people to go around jibber jabbering publicly but to go home in private and speak that way to God in the tongues of Angels to converse with him in groanings and praises that no human tongue can express adequately.

posted by David2006 on June 19, 2006 at 7:23 AM | link to this | reply

TVBlogger - we've seen quite a few persons blog with "having enough faith"

as the central theme.

I can't think of a good all encompassing name for it either but I know exactly what you mean. It fits into the same category of selective reasoning that having prayers answered does. Again ascribing responsibility for favourable outcomes to an invisible being, instead of just accepting the laws of probability.

posted by gomedome on June 18, 2006 at 7:02 PM | link to this | reply

Oops

should have proofed. That was God, not Fod.

posted by TVBlogger on June 18, 2006 at 6:55 PM | link to this | reply

I'm not sure what it would be called...

but I would add the "if you have enough faith" you will get healed, you will get that job, you will get whatever it is you've asked Fod for. It's got the built-in fail-safe that when God doesn't answer your prayer, it's simply because you didn't have enough faith.

posted by TVBlogger on June 18, 2006 at 6:55 PM | link to this | reply

posted by A-and-B on June 18, 2006 at 2:45 PM | link to this | reply

kingmi - I agree, there are many aspects of organized religion that

indicate that the entire belief system is man made.

Some of my favourites include the "get em while they are young" subscription ploy of original sin, or the insistence that Jesus himself asked all believers to "witness" which of course is another subscription ploy. When you look at it all with a jaded eye, it seems that every fabricated layer of organized religion is simply about getting people signed up and keeping them from leaving.