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Mason
Thanks, my friend. I hope you are doing well.

posted by avant-garde on June 16, 2006 at 1:04 AM | link to this | reply

Isa
We have experienced this lately with the selling of our house. People show up unannounced, and think it's an open house. Or, they make appts. and then don't show, don't call. It's so inconsiderate. I've gotten very angry a couple of times.

posted by avant-garde on June 16, 2006 at 1:03 AM | link to this | reply

whacky
Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on June 16, 2006 at 1:02 AM | link to this | reply

sometimes...

i regret being nice with ppl...i have experienced some recent disappointments regarding ppl...ppl are ready to use you, but i noticed that many of them are ready to "shit on you" when rhey don't need you any more...i have gotten that from artists too...

hopefully there are still a few nice ppl left...

 

posted by Marshallengraved on June 16, 2006 at 1:02 AM | link to this | reply

bel
It's sad to hear stories like this one. There are so many things to be thankful for, and so many of us are determined not to see it.

posted by avant-garde on June 16, 2006 at 1:02 AM | link to this | reply

una
Thank you, as always!

posted by avant-garde on June 16, 2006 at 1:01 AM | link to this | reply

Bright Irish
My own mother and I have a relationship as you describe. It's sad in a way, but in another it has taught me a great deal about courage.

posted by avant-garde on June 16, 2006 at 1:00 AM | link to this | reply

  ..great post!

posted by MasonGarrett on June 15, 2006 at 11:28 PM | link to this | reply

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posted by Whacky on June 15, 2006 at 8:42 PM | link to this | reply

Avant
I wish it were me, then I could have made changes.   She is not your usual, typical mother and she did a good deal of harm to my husband and my child.  When the relationship was severed, it was Carl's choice solely, as I have done with other things that trouble me I simply supported any decision he made...I won't lie and say I wasn't relieved when he made the one he did, but I tried very hard not to influence his choice.

posted by bel_1965 on June 15, 2006 at 7:33 PM | link to this | reply

Avant garde--I have been trying not to blame others but instead look inside
myself for the root of any problems. Good entry, as always!

posted by una01 on June 15, 2006 at 7:28 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde
Hi.. I agree with Taps and her interruptration. I also concidered my mother-in-law a evil person.. At first I tried hard to have her like me and then I started to really believe that if she liked me then I would not be able to like myself .. in other words > the less she thought of me the more I liked myself, her opinion didn't matter.

posted by BrightIrish on June 15, 2006 at 6:41 PM | link to this | reply

Blanche
I know not one person who doesn't have an 'issue' with his or her mother. I wonder if that's the way it works!

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 5:51 PM | link to this | reply

Blanche
Every person we interact with is our teacher, for they show us about ourselves. By judging the person, we not only are projecting our shortcomings on them, but we are missing the opportunity present.

That opportunity is that we have a choice whether or not to accept and love others exactly the way they are; and, in doing so, we realize they hold no power over how we feel.

It is when we want something from others that we are no longer 'free', and feel the need to find things through them. A sacrifice is made, one that leaves us feeling as if our existence stems from the whims of circumstance.

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 5:50 PM | link to this | reply

Avant-Garde,

I've read and re-read this one several times.  "spurned"?  "avoid them and an opportunity for healing is passed by", is healing always possible?  I agree that I am new to the idea of projection, that one took me a while to grasp, now I look for it.

What is the ultimate outcome? 

posted by Blanche. on June 15, 2006 at 3:34 PM | link to this | reply

Avant-Garde,
I'm lucky, I'll probably never have a mother-in-law, MG, my boyfriend, left home at 16, took from Wichita and left when it got to be too much and has never been back.   He had to, it was him or her.

posted by Blanche. on June 15, 2006 at 1:25 PM | link to this | reply

TAPS
Precisely my point. The ones we hate the most show us where our work lies within ourselves. Thank you.

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 1:18 PM | link to this | reply

bel
Why did I have a feeling it was a mother in law? I had hell with mine the first two years, but it was me and not her. She is still the same person, as TAPS said, but I've changed.

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 1:17 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde, before I read the comments and what bel said, I was already silently shouting "MOTHER-IN-LAW"      During the first decade of my married life, I actually did consider her my enemy.   She never, ever changed.   She was exactly the same at age 94 when she died.  But, I changed.  I actually learned to understand that it did not matter if she changed or not because I had changed and I had learned some of life's lessons that I needed to learn because of her.

posted by TAPS. on June 15, 2006 at 1:06 PM | link to this | reply

Avant
She was my husband's mother, I had to TRY.  At this point she became so toxic not only to me but also to him and children that he removed her from our lives.  As I said sadly with some the best you can do is just stay away from them.

posted by bel_1965 on June 15, 2006 at 12:49 PM | link to this | reply

sannhet
Yes, my friend. Namaste.

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 12:43 PM | link to this | reply

bel
I would daresay that you give your power away to this person, by trying to work to get her to accept you. Some people will never like us as individuals, no matter what. This will stop being a concern if that person is freed from the want of approval.

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 12:42 PM | link to this | reply

Isa
It is hard to know where the line is, between helping others and being used. Sometimes the line is crossed when attachments have already been made.

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 12:40 PM | link to this | reply

redwood
Yes, I think it all has to do with intention. After all, if we hate ourselves and think someone out there can provide us with love, do we not hate them for what they cannot possibly provide?

posted by avant-garde on June 15, 2006 at 12:39 PM | link to this | reply

Avant -
Learn from them, and the divine will continue to grow. . .

posted by sannhet on June 15, 2006 at 9:42 AM | link to this | reply

I don't know that this always works
There is one person in particular that comes to mind, that I have tried to make peace with, tried to be kind to and let the nasty hateful things she says and does just fall by the wayside.  But at what point to do you refuse to allow another to mistreat you and simply just stay away?

posted by bel_1965 on June 15, 2006 at 5:52 AM | link to this | reply

well...
i think i have a lot to learn regarding enemies...i punched one of my enemies right in the face last month...she kept provoking me and it drove me mad...i couldn't control myself...all the bad things she had done to me (besides stealing my money in my apt) went back into my memory...

posted by Marshallengraved on June 15, 2006 at 5:24 AM | link to this | reply

avant- It seems that some people are born with the ability to diffuse any
situation. Others seems to be locked into a never ending love/hate syndrome with everybody and every thing. Remember the old Robert Mitchum movie about the guy who had "love" tattooed on one fist and "hate"tattooed on the other?

posted by redwood on June 15, 2006 at 4:42 AM | link to this | reply