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And a global warming fear-mongerer
is
hardly the person to accuse someone else of having an agenda! The Emoticon Hammer for that one!
posted by
WriterofLight
on June 15, 2006 at 6:49 PM
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Xenox, besides referring you back to this post . . .
wherein some of your claims are refuted, take a look at the hurricane stats from another post at
Follow the links, and you'll see both the brevity of weather records (which I touched on here), the cyclic nature of hurricanes, and the fact that the most severe hurricane season in the Atlantic (at least prior to 2005, for which data was not available) was way back in 1950 before global warming had even been invented. Heck, it even predated global cooling, the previous scare effort.
As for the snowless mountains, I've seen the same thing as a regular vacationer in the Sierras and Cascades - forty and forty-five years ago. The phenomenon, caused by low snowfall the previous winter or an abnormally warm spring, was always followed sooner or later by lots of snow in later summers. Indeed - the northern Sierras received massive amounts of snow this spring.
Don't bother mentioning National Geographic to me. Evil things have befallen a formerly great magazine.
You do raise a perfectly legitimate question. But mine is, should we not ascertain what exactly is going on and why, according to the experts in the field of causes - not effects - of climate change, before taking draconian and self-destructive actions that may not even address the actual cause? In other words, what do you propose to do to change cycles of colar activity?
If you want to accuse anybody of not loving their children or grandchildren, you are employing precisely the kind of emotion-laden argument for which the panic-mongerers are notorious. You cannot rely on facts, you cannot rely on hard evidence, all you have is "You don't love your kids if you disagree with me." I note you failed to refute what the cause of climate change experts (there has to be a name for that school of climatology) said that refutes the global warming scam.
You need to love your kids by teaching them sound reasoning, objective examination of evidence pro and con, and the ability to think for themselves and not be snookered by flagrantly manipulative tripe being substituted for reason and logic.
I'm going to be gone for a couple of days - to be with my children and grandchildren, in fact - and I will address this in more detail when I get back.
posted by
WriterofLight
on June 15, 2006 at 6:48 PM
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and that's not the newspaper
giving us nformation
it's a guest writer who just probably might have an agenda
off the scientists and climatologists quoted elsewhere -- when you use such words as this article does, maybe you'd better use numbers to back them up.
as I said in tmy previous comment, there is much evidence that global warming is occuring -- and physical at that.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 15, 2006 at 2:37 PM
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it's fact
- loss of ice in the Arctic -- warmer temperatures shorten the ice cover of Hudson's Bay -- polar bears are affected because the need the ice to hunt and otherwise live their lives
- receding glaciers around the world -- factual
- less snow cover on mountains -- Rockies, in particular -- a few years ago I climbed a 14er -- no snow at all on it -- hardly any on any of the other mountains -- Denver and other municipalities that get their water from the Colorado River (Los Angeles for instance) are impatced
- rising sea levels -- coastal people have had to relocate
- Antarctic Ice Sheet -- one is melting -- another that has increased in mass is doing so due to increased precipitation brought on by climate change due to global warming
- increased numbers and intensity of hurricane (predicted as a rsult of global warming)
If there were only a few sources for Global Warming, then maybe we could call it spurious. But there are so many that we cannot ignore the possibility -- National Geographic had an article on it -- listing all the results so far.
my question has been -- do we really want to take the chance that Global Warming is not occuring? Because if it is and we ignore it, then we will have to suffer the consequences.
posts like yours are very destructive in that they encourage people to ignore the possibility -- and if you ignore a reality then the reality willeventually hit you smack dab in the face
it seems you don't really love your children and grandchildren to allow them to possibly suffer these consequences.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 15, 2006 at 6:28 AM
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It's remarkable
That global warming alarmists can run around screaming that the administration is trying to shut them up, while at the same time Gore and media outlets like Time magazine are pretending that there is consensus on warming and try to shut up dissenters.
posted by
AaronB
on June 14, 2006 at 9:56 PM
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