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Been there, done that Kooka, already read it.

(Always glad to help a fellow blogger with ideas for posts!)

posted by JanesOpinion on June 9, 2006 at 8:51 PM | link to this | reply

Janes

I wrote one post on it.  I made several comments ot NOPEACE in his posts trying to get him to understand what it is he is doing.

Where have I pushed this issue?

Oh, you need to really read the next post here, since your reply here is just helping to prove the point of that post.

posted by kooka_lives on June 9, 2006 at 8:23 PM | link to this | reply

You haven't pushed the issue?

"I agree.  I have not pushed the issue very hard.  I had a point to make and I made it..  While I truly do not feel sorry for him at the basic level, I do feel that he must have some issues to have done all that he did.  It is now up to NOPEACE to decided if he wishes to show integrity or not."

Huh.  That's news to me.  Haven't pushed it, eh?  Gomedome at least wrote about compassion for the man.  I'd say you've definitely capitalized on his errors.

posted by JanesOpinion on June 9, 2006 at 8:11 PM | link to this | reply

I doubt it also, as I have read his recent post

and your links to where he's copied it from.

I can see where he can state that passages from the bible are not copyright, but he doesn't seem to understand that he is copying articles and such that other people have written. Things that are copyrighted.

I don't understand it, unless he is somehow delusioned into thinking because they are of the same faith their words belong to the faith and not the writer.

It baffles me. Does he really not understand that it's wrong? Or is he just trying to cover his @ss?
I would tend to lean in the direction that he really doesn't understand that it's wrong, because he's continuing to do it.

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on June 9, 2006 at 7:59 PM | link to this | reply

gomedome

posted by kooka_lives on June 9, 2006 at 7:52 PM | link to this | reply

Sunnybeach

 I haven't.  Don't know if anyone else has.

 I am somewhat hoping he shows a little integrity and corrects the problem himself.  Since he is denying he is doing anything wrong, I doubt that is going to happen.

posted by kooka_lives on June 9, 2006 at 7:48 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - This calls for a Perotism (as in H. Ross Perot) . . .

the horse has been beaten - let's see if he still pees on the carpet.

posted by gomedome on June 9, 2006 at 7:26 PM | link to this | reply

Sooooooo, has anyone reported him?

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on June 9, 2006 at 7:18 PM | link to this | reply

gomedome

I agree.  I have not pushed the issue very hard.  I had a point to make and I made it..  While I truly do not feel sorry for him at the basic level, I do feel that he must have some issues to have done all that he did.  It is now up to NOPEACE to decided if he wishes to show integrity or not.

Although NOEPACE is right now claiming he has done nothing at all wrong.  That does not help.  He needs to admit his mistakes and just stop doing what he has been doing.  I am wondering is his post for today is plagiarized as well.

posted by kooka_lives on June 9, 2006 at 3:49 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - I was absolutely certain that the claims of a high IQ and

a degree from an Ivy league college were bogus the minute I heard them. It was just as much the context in which these claims were made as it was the obvious lack of any indication that they could be true, that convinced me. 

However we are now faced with a quandary that is found beyond exposing a fraud. This is a person that may need some help. Continuing to beat on the beaten accomplishes nothing further other than to add more misery to the life of an individual that seems to be completely screwed up. Don't get me wrong, if someone aggressively makes bogus claims such as we have seen, and specifically in attempts to discredit others, they deserve everything they receive but we cannot forget that there is a human being on the receiving end. A human being that apparently has problems.

posted by gomedome on June 9, 2006 at 7:19 AM | link to this | reply

kingme

 You must not understand my name at all.  I wrote a post about it some time back.  Put 'kooka' in the search feature and the top post should be the one on where my screen name came from.

Also, it is against Blogit policy to steal other people's work and post them here in the fashion NOPEACE did.  The legal area of it gets somewhat fuzzy, but it is clearly immoral to do what he ahs done.  I am making no judgment on him actually.  he made all thee judgments himself  in the past.  I am just using his own judgments on him.

posted by kooka_lives on June 9, 2006 at 6:16 AM | link to this | reply

kingmi

yuou want to read Blogit's policies.

I do believe they mention plagiariism and copyright laws.

and copyright law does say that you have to attribute a work to its author.

but now i understand his use of old, worn out concepts.

posted by Xeno-x on June 9, 2006 at 5:49 AM | link to this | reply

It's really sad

Not only because people would debate with him about these writings that aren't his, but that being the case, does he even fully understand what he's copying?

I have no problem with debating, but it should be done through your own thoughts and words.

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on June 8, 2006 at 9:29 PM | link to this | reply

one more thing

he's sure going to get a lot of hits with all this talk about his entries.

posted by LoisLane907 on June 8, 2006 at 9:09 PM | link to this | reply

Kooka

yea, I got that. but just on its face, you can't be at fault because someone else was caught misrepresenting themselves. thanks for filling me in.

posted by LoisLane907 on June 8, 2006 at 9:07 PM | link to this | reply

kooka, you got your name honestly, my friend. Even plagiarism on Blogit!

is not illegal.  Is it sin?  I would think your judgmentalism is worse.  Sorry, friend.  You extremists can get to the edge quickish!

posted by kingmi on June 8, 2006 at 9:05 PM | link to this | reply

TAPS

 I would feel sorry for him if he had not basically dug his own grave here.  He has come off with an attitude that he has all the answers and then has shown that he stole them all from other places. I just am unable to feel sorry for him. I seriously do not know what of his you can believe now.  I was doubtful about his claims about Harvard and his I.Q. before, but was unsure feeling that maybe he was telling the truth. Now I can not help but believe that it was all just pure lies.

posted by kooka_lives on June 8, 2006 at 9:02 PM | link to this | reply

LL907

 Janes rarely if ever sides with me.  In this case she is trying not to, since I have shown a Christian to have made huge mistakes.  If it were me being the accused she would be part of the bandwagon that would roast me alive without giving me a chance to defend myself.  So you have to understand some of the history between us to fully understand her statement and attitude here.

posted by kooka_lives on June 8, 2006 at 8:59 PM | link to this | reply

kingme

 Well, NOPEACE was trying to give the impression he was perfect.  After all he did have a  whole thing on sin being sin in God's eyes and that people need to not give into to 'Satan' by sinning.  And it would be one thing if I had only found one post of his that was not really his.  yet I have found four and I might have found more, but I figured there was little point to going on.

Although the real point is that if he believes as he claims he does, then he is the one who now has to deal with the possible punishment from his God.  Seriously, is NOPEACE's own words, because he has willingly sinned, he is no better than a mass murder or rapist, since sin is sin according to him

posted by kooka_lives on June 8, 2006 at 8:56 PM | link to this | reply

Kooka, OK, so don't start throwing stones, OK. Nobody's perfect...........

posted by kingmi on June 8, 2006 at 8:38 PM | link to this | reply

just wait a minute

ok, if a person says they are a Christian then you should act like one. But do you have to be a Christian to know that stealing is wrong? I think there may be some athestists or agnostics out there who will tell you that belief in a higher power shouldn't be the only reason why you just don't take something that is not yours and then tell people who are paying to read it that it is.

I know I'm jumping in the conversation, but Janes_Opinion accused someone of being mean because they discovered the truth. That's not mean, that's being a journalist. And it's only natural to want to discover the truth after someone has been mislead.

posted by LoisLane907 on June 8, 2006 at 7:58 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives, It is always disappointing to find that someone, Christian or otherwise, is being dishonest or is naive enough to not even know they are doing something illegal.    I guess a little compassion is in order as he probably will be leaving us before long.

posted by TAPS. on June 8, 2006 at 7:49 PM | link to this | reply

Janes

I did not have to do any work to find fault with NOPEACE.  he opened himself up to it.  I read his latest post and knew I had read it before.  In fact now that I have checked, four out of his last five posts are not his own work.  That is only as far as I have checked so far. 

He claims to have high morals and such, yet he shows he lacks them fully.

Believe what you wish about why I wrote this post, it does not matter to me.  The truth  is that NOPEACE has stolen multiple writings now and posted them as if they were his own.

posted by kooka_lives on June 8, 2006 at 7:42 PM | link to this | reply

Kooka, I will not stand up for NOPEACE --

If he plagiarized, particularly without acknowledging his sources, he should be held accountable. 

It does seem, however, that you are bending over backwards to find fault with Christian bloggers.  Do you do this out of spite?  Or a desire to show yourself as being better than the rest?  Do you do it to be mean?  Or do you TRULY have the best intentions of holding a person accountable to journalistic integrity?

If it's true integrity you're after, then next time, send him an email in private before making such accusations in public. 

posted by JanesOpinion on June 8, 2006 at 7:32 PM | link to this | reply