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NOPEACE HAS TO PRESENT EVIDENCE
instead of such statements.

he hasn't so far.

I've been to your blog (as you well know) and really wish you would present something substantial to support all your claims here.

posted by Xeno-x on June 7, 2006 at 7:07 PM | link to this | reply

NOPEACE HASN'T PROVEN ANYTHING?
the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution (which I think is the subject here)

NOPEACE has presented some items in his one and only blog (if you will read them, you will reaidly come to the conclusion that his presentation is pretty vacuous); however, I have countered at least some of what he said pretty easily.

I stated somewhere that in a court of law; each side must present evidence in its favor.

the theory of evolution has overwhelming evidence in its favor.

where is the evidence for intelligent design?

another blogger linked me to a site , discovery institute

http://www.discovery.org/

I read some of its presentation and discovered that one argument used old items that have since been discredited and discarded.

the debate continues, however.

but in order for this to be a real debate, one side (I wonder which one) has to present some substantial evidence.

posted by Xeno-x on June 7, 2006 at 6:57 PM | link to this | reply

gomedome
It is amazing at what ways people find proof of God.  I'll start capitalizing Cosmic Dog and saying that as my new curse, that way I will have all the proof I need that there is a great Cosmic Dog out there.  And if I can disprove God by using the Bible (Which is fairly easy to do) I can also prove the Cosmic Dog that way as well.

posted by kooka_lives on June 7, 2006 at 6:55 PM | link to this | reply

NOPEACE
First off, I went to a backwater school (A Community Collage) and I am more intelligent than you.  But that is not the point.  You claim to have intelligence, but do not show it.  You 'shot yourself in the foot' as I pointed out here by trying to use a 'weapon' you do not understand.  You don't think at all, inside or outside the box.  You just don't thin in the least.  you do not understand logic or reasoning.   You are the one that is trying to say having gone to Harvard makes a difference while at the same time saying it does not.  I can promise you that my level of thinking is higher than yours (Unless you are talking about drug use, then I would have to say you are a fair amount higher than I am.)

Second, I never said the universe was in my nose (Although unlike your idea of God, I am worthy of worship, I am not however the Cosmic Dog), I said the nose of the Cosmic Dog.  There is as much proof backing up my Cosmic Dog idea as there is you concept of God.  Both are equally provable.

Then there is the simple fact the science proving evolution does not disprove God and disproving evolution does not prove God.  I have never said such.  I do not believe in God, but that has nothing to do with me belief in evolution and my faith in science. Following that up, there is still no logic or reasoning in the idea that is you find gaps in scientific ideas it does not go to prove God. You can not have proof of something by disproving something else when the two are unrelated.  Disproving evolution does not prove God, no matter what.  There are always alternatives that can be looked at.  You would have to prove God in order to prove God.  Does you 'higher' (seriously, get off the pot.  It explains a lot about you, but it is not a healthy lifestyle) thinking grasp this simple concept?

My advice to you, get off the drugs and stop being so high.  You really keep showing that you have no understanding at all about science, logic or reasoning.   But if you wish to keep on shooting your own foot and limping around like a fool, I can't stop you.

posted by kooka_lives on June 7, 2006 at 6:51 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - of course that can't be used to prove God's existence
God's existence has already been proven by two past bloggers. There's the one that said the fact that people capitalize the word "God" proves his existence.  Then there was the one that said the fact that as someone is driving over a cliff in their car they are likely to scream "Oh God" proves his existence.  It's been proven to us twice, how could we possibly doubt it still? 

posted by gomedome on June 7, 2006 at 6:15 PM | link to this | reply

Kooka

Come on man, the old Harvard thing is getting old.  Does going to any particular college mean that you are suppose to be more intelligent than somebody else?  I'm sure there are people who went to Backwater USA who are more intelligent than you.  The school you go to means nothing. 

You obvisously can prove that the universe is not in your nose so I'll dismiss a silly statement like that and understand the point that you are trying to make.  However, when an individual begins to use scientific research such as evolution to say that there could not possibly be a God and another individual uses that same science to show them the gaps in the logic the alternative by proving there are flaws in the science must be, there is a God. 

I know you don't understand that Kooka but at H A R V A R D they taught us how to think outside the box.  Maybe that's why I get into so many debates with some non believers here about my logic.  Maybe it's because I'm thinking on a MUCH higher level that you just can't reach.  Keep trying, you'll get there. Maybe.

 

posted by NOPEACE on June 7, 2006 at 5:24 PM | link to this | reply