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a theory is noit something not proven
a heliocentric solar system is a theory -- still being added to. but we would not argue that the sun is NOT THE CTNER OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM, NOW WOULD WE -- JUST BECAUSE IT'S A THEORY.
ELECTRICITY IS A THEORY. MUCH HAS YET TO BE DISCOVERED. AND YET, WE WOULD NOT STICK A WET FINGER IN A SOCKET BECAUSE IT IS A THEORY.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 5, 2006 at 2:04 PM
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posted by
A-and-B
on June 5, 2006 at 2:00 PM
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Thank you - will do!
posted by
Ingi
on June 5, 2006 at 11:48 AM
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Ingi - go ahead - it's no problem
posted by
gomedome
on June 5, 2006 at 11:42 AM
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redwood - but they are not both theories -
Evolution is a true theory that is based on some scientific fact, satisfies the expectation of inevitable provability and can be independently corroborated as new facts come to light. Creationism on the other hand satisfies virtually nothing in terms of scientific methodology. It can never be verified and certainly never be independently corroborated. (like who would you ask to do this, the Moslems?) It may be an alternative thought process to evolution for some people but to treat it and view it in the same light as a legitimate scientific theory, compromises the integrity of scientific methodology.
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gomedome
on June 5, 2006 at 11:41 AM
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Howzit!
I wouldn't miss an episode for the world! I wanted to ask if I could please send you an e-mail on this particular subject - if you do mind, just let me know. I was busy with something (on this subject) for my friends at work. I really find it interesting and wanted to share it incase you thought it to be interesting too!
Ingi
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Ingi
on June 5, 2006 at 11:18 AM
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Gomedome - I have a post in the education category on this subject.
For the life of me, I can not see what is wrong with comparing the two theories. If one theory is really so much better than the other, wouldn't this become evident a classroom environment? No matter what is legislated, the controversy will always continue. When it comes to Cadillacs, I think that I would prefer an Allente.
posted by
redwood
on June 5, 2006 at 10:54 AM
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redwood -- I'm laughing because I owned that car once upon a time
A classic land yacht. Mind you, when I owned the Caddy, it was one step away from the wreckers. But nostalgia aside, there are a number of basic reasons that it is hard for our human minds to grasp evolution as a life forming process. Ignorance of the process itself is the biggest single reason, the average person is simply unfamiliar with all that is being proposed within evolution theory. Then we all have trouble thinking in terms of how long the process would take. A billion years to most of us is unfathomable, as is the alignment of unrelated factors, elements and influences to propagate life. Even with my rudimentary understanding of these things, I still find them to be inadequate explanations. But we have no reasonable alternatives unless we believe what most of mankind has always believed in that life itself is the handiwork of a conscious, omnipotent creator being. Created with supernatural powers, from nothing, for reasons that we cannot understand and placed on one insignificant planet amongst countless billions of spacial bodies. I personally find that explanation even more lacking.
posted by
gomedome
on June 5, 2006 at 10:29 AM
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I think that if a large wrecking yard remained totally unattended -
for a period of five billion years, an evolution process would still transpire. The individuals components of the junk yard would assimilate themselves into a totally restored 1957 Cadillac Coupe de Ville. Someone would still have to provide fuel and lubricant, though. And the vehicle would have to be a hard top. I do not not believe that evolution alone could produce a convertible. But I could be wrong about that.
posted by
redwood
on June 5, 2006 at 10:09 AM
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ariel70 - I have to agree, we have evolved from apes
With some of us having evolved just a little further. (This used to be my favourite line when I was a teenager, to explain why I couldn't grow a decent beard)
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gomedome
on June 5, 2006 at 7:44 AM
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Gomedome
WE all spring form apes, old chap. Trouble is ; some of us are no good at jumping.
posted by
ariel70
on June 5, 2006 at 7:30 AM
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