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Spitfire
Without a doubt I will be doing it. For the time being they are living elsewhere because of the home burning down (which I still suspect he had a hand in and I told the police just that, they say they can't prove it but they tend to agree with me as it started from a dryer he had JUST wired). But I talked to the Chief last night and asked about the video, he said if I can get proof like that, he can arrest him for abuse against the children without ever having to have the kids back it up. GREAT IDEA, THANK YOU!!!
posted by
bel_1965
on June 12, 2006 at 6:03 AM
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bel_1965, DO IT!!
I'm almost sure that in most cases, you can remain anonymous when providing evidence and/or reports. Some day, those kids will thank you for it...even if they never know your name.
posted by
SpitFire70
on June 12, 2006 at 6:00 AM
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Littlems
I can only hope she will. I don't see it happening though. She has had more than one oppurtunity to get out and each time takes him back. He was on the property the other day, I called the police and our local Chief answered. Given I know him pretty well, he just sighed and said "Honey, I'm sorry, there is nothing I can do, there is no longer a warrant for him." When I asked why, he isn't allowed to tell me, so I said "OK, I get it she withdrew it."
He said "I am neither confirming nor denying but you are a pretty smart woman."
I just don't get it.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 11, 2006 at 7:51 AM
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Spitfire
You and I are of the same mind here! I never thought about video, that is an awesome idea. You see they system here is f**ked. A lot of us have called in the past and nothing is done (which is how a little boy ened up murdered by his adoptive parents less than 20 miles from me last year). Being a product of this very same system, I KNOW what happens after the social worker leaves, it gets worse for those kids!
I have made the decision that when they move back I am going to take your idea and everytime I hear screaming come from that house I am taking my video camera with damn good sound out in the yard. If something happens to those kids SOMEONE will have to answer for it!
posted by
bel_1965
on June 11, 2006 at 7:47 AM
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bel - I understand your sentiments
and I hope some good will come to the children and that they will be strong enough to survive what life throws at them. As for the woman - I hope she is able to get herself out of the cycle of violence soon - for her's and the kids sakes.
posted by
littlemspickles
on June 11, 2006 at 12:42 AM
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Bel, you have to report them!
You should simply record such incidences on video and/or audio and give it to DCFS! Sorry you have to endure this everyday. These so-called parents shouldn't be legally able to breed. Can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em.
posted by
SpitFire70
on June 10, 2006 at 4:03 AM
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SilverMoon
Thank you it is good to be back.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 9, 2006 at 5:22 AM
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What a sad situation. I feel for those children. 
It's good to see you back, tho! 
posted by
SilverMoon7
on June 9, 2006 at 5:21 AM
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Factor
I wish it were that easy. Coming from an abusive home, I know about "family secrets". Chidren of abused homes seldom speak out.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 6, 2006 at 6:35 AM
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Bel, I feel sick just reading about it.
Perhaps you could let the kids know you are there if they need you? They may not be the best kids in the world, but they should still know someone cares.
posted by
FactorFiction
on June 5, 2006 at 12:24 PM
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Passion
Sometimes the things that hurt us most make us the people we are. I love you so dearly and I thank you so much for your heart.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 4, 2006 at 7:48 PM
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Shelly
It is a very messed up situation
posted by
bel_1965
on June 4, 2006 at 7:46 PM
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Taps
It is very sad
posted by
bel_1965
on June 4, 2006 at 7:44 PM
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bel, That is just so sad and so horrible. Little children deserve love.
posted by
TAPS.
on June 3, 2006 at 10:57 PM
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gee.....so sad....what is wrong with these people??
posted by
shelly_b
on June 3, 2006 at 8:20 PM
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So sorry Bel...wish we lived closer...
I'd make sure you gots lots of hugs and loving on. I'm a nurturer.
posted by
Passionflower
on June 3, 2006 at 8:15 PM
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Passion
From my own experience it is. Family and neighbors when I was growing up came to realize that and simply quit calling because I was worse off than before they called.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 9:41 AM
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I've heard it can be worse than just leaving the kids where they are.
posted by
Passionflower
on June 2, 2006 at 9:39 AM
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Passion
Many think the gov't is too involved in our daily lives but in a situation like this, just by the sheer lack of the ability to care for these kids should be reason enough to take them. I was a child of hte CPS system and it took me running away to escape...I don't have alot of faith in the system.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 9:21 AM
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I'm very sorry to hear this....
I guess calling CPS would just make matters worse??? God Bless those children. Do you think our govt should step in and stop this sort of thing?
posted by
Passionflower
on June 2, 2006 at 9:17 AM
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Rumored
I despise very few people this man is on that very short list.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 9:05 AM
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wow...very hard..make that next to impossible... to love a neighbor...
like that....hopefully someone can intervene...
posted by
Rumor
on June 2, 2006 at 8:59 AM
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Medusa
Believe me I am as well, I literally cried when I found out she was pregnant again. I have one neighbor who was born to be a mom and she had one baby die at birth and is now desperately trying to adopt while not making her one child feel as if he is anything but her whole world and then I have these people who don't even want them! It kills me.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 8:35 AM
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Saul
currently because thier home burned down they live about a half mile up the road, so I don't see much of it. I checked with the Chief Of Police yesterday and discovered there is a warrant out for the man's arrest. The next time he shows up at the old place I am calling the police. Now that I know the children are also being abused, I will be keeping a closer eye on things. I will not sit back and let that happen if I can do something. The police will remove the children is there is proof.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 8:34 AM
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Yeah, Bel...That is a sickening story....
And oh how very sad and yet, not unusual today...I don't know what to say because there is no easy solution here. I'm at a loss for words.
posted by
MedusaNextDoor
on June 2, 2006 at 8:29 AM
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These relationships should be troubling, bel. It shows that you care
about others. However, degenerates like the abusive husband and willing victims like the abused wife are the role models of their six (possibly seven, if he don't beat it out of her) children, continuing the vicious cycle. If there is anyway that you can intervene (without causing harm to yourself, of course), you should. Getting those children apart from those parents and that relationship is a societal imperative.
posted by
saul_relative
on June 2, 2006 at 8:29 AM
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I thought it was here too
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 8:28 AM
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bel 1965
It's automtaic arrest in Canada now for spousal abuse, I think, and the police can do it without the spouse. Hmm.
posted by
WileyJohn
on June 2, 2006 at 8:22 AM
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I probably did
The situation there has always troubled me. I am just so sad for those kids.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 8:16 AM
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Bel...I think I remember you talking about these people before when Carl
was gone. Geez...7th child and an abusive relationship. Not for me.
posted by
Sturgis
on June 2, 2006 at 8:02 AM
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8-ball
Luckily we are in single dwelling residence but they are still too close for comfort. This man scares me!
posted by
bel_1965
on June 2, 2006 at 7:59 AM
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Oh my god
to live in the same building and don't know it. I have the same problem but with less kids. I am always watching the neighbours kid who is three and steals lighters and tries to burn my recycling. He goes on the road as well and when I finally got fed up and banged on the door to tell them to watch him, when they finally opened a big whuff of Pot smoke came out choking me but the kid was used to it. Poor kids with stupid parents that need to grow up.
posted by
8-ball
on June 2, 2006 at 7:57 AM
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