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wasn't the femal i was commenting on
she had small protuberances
the LORD's attributes, however, were somewhat considerable.
no wonder nuns . . .
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 2, 2006 at 2:51 PM
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My initial intent was to defend your position and provide you with
an example from my own experience of God's sense of humor, which suggests at best that the Holy Bible is not perfect, albeit inspired. I can't prove anything to anybody because I can't transfer my experience to you. If you told me you have seen God, it wouldn't prove anything to me, even if I wanted to believe you, because it wouldn't have been within my experience.
By the way, I've been seeing a psychiatrist for 25 years, and I've been on everything from Thorazene to Abilify. But I don't doubt my experiences. They are 100 per cent accurate, and you can take that to the bank. I'm right and the rest of the world is wrong. In the words of Jesus Christ: "If it were not so I would have told you."
posted by
JasonScyte
on June 2, 2006 at 9:25 AM
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Xeno-x - I think that commenting on the body of any female god
sends you straight to hell.
I'm not sure about that but if I was a god of some sort I'd make it a rule.
posted by
gomedome
on June 2, 2006 at 8:33 AM
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JasonScyte - actually I was intentionally not making any negative
assumptions.
I don't know whether or not otherworldly species, or entities, have genders or form unions where they become husband and wife. I do know that husband and wife are terms only applied to the mated pairs in human unions with all other species on this planet referred to as mates, regardless of the type of union they form.
You have to take a bit of responsibility here. You have stated that you have heard voices that you believe are God. When making such a claim, you have to know that it will be met with some skepticism. I have yet to suggest that you are imagining things, instead choosing to attempt to explain to you what I feel is responsible for the manifestation that you claim to have experienced. I could have said "wow, lucky you, God never talks to me" but I chose a different route. In the end I still wonder what your point is.
I do know one thing however concerning these types of manifestations and I mentioned it in an earlier comment. Prior knowledge of the manifesting entity is necessary. Muslims do not see visions of, or hear the voice of the Virgin Mary for example. All spiritual experience is derived from within the human mind.
posted by
gomedome
on June 2, 2006 at 8:31 AM
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the hebrew god YHVH
did have a female consort.
and was pretty well hung too.
I hzave the picture somewhere here.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 2, 2006 at 7:43 AM
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How do you know they're strictly human terms? I'm not trying to
convince you of anything. I told you what God told me--and the voice was external as if He was in the room with me--and you start making all of these negative assumptions that don't hold any more water than what I have to say.
Peace.
posted by
JasonScyte
on June 2, 2006 at 7:32 AM
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JasonScyte - you have answered your own question
Husband and wife are strickly human terms but this aside, what is the point that you are attempting to make? Are you trying to offer proof of God's existence because of voices you hear in your head? Without visiting mental health care issues, it is hardly a convincing argument. I am only attempting as a non professional to tell you what I think a health care professional would say in that any voice you hear internally is something that eminates from within your mind, though it may not be something that you have complete control over.
posted by
gomedome
on June 2, 2006 at 6:26 AM
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It was a male voice! I have also heard the voice of his wife,
or female counterpart. Now, you're probably going to anticipate that statement by saying His having a wife corresponds to conditions as I know them to be here on the planet. But it makes a lot of sense to me that God's existence is significantly similar to our own, unless He's some big blob of spirit floating around the universe that would really be impossible for us to understand, therefore relegating him to irrelevance.
posted by
JasonScyte
on June 1, 2006 at 11:45 PM
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JasonScyte - not completely wrong
It being a male voice that you hear actually bears out what I am saying. You insist it is the voice of God yet also insist that the voice is male. A traditionally defined God is a male patriarch, a shortcoming in mankind's ability to describe an omnipotent being ascribes a gender to this entity. If such a being actually existed, there would be no reason for it to have a distinctive gender. I go back to what I said originally, prior knowledge of the definition of this entity has produced this manifestation according to your expectations. All of the elements are in your mind.
posted by
gomedome
on June 1, 2006 at 11:27 PM
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Wrong gomedome,
it was the voiice as it were of a contemporary man. It was no Santa Claus figure's voice. I was surpised when I heard it, and readily recognized it the second time I heard it. I fully believe in the voice,
posted by
JasonScyte
on June 1, 2006 at 9:50 PM
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JasonScyte - of course its' a deep man's voice
It would have to be, as the wise old patriarch is the most common depiction of God to be found in all ancient religions. To have such a manifestation to the point of you thinking that it is real, it would have to be based on prior knowledge and ingrained expectation pertaining to the manifesting entity.
posted by
gomedome
on June 1, 2006 at 9:07 PM
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Justi - what the hell are you talking about?
You have just constructed an issue to be offended about from the ground up. I am not certain where he was from but vaguely remember Alabama being mentioned. Nor did I have any idea that you were from Alabama, nor do I much care where either of you hail from. If the way I have written that particular sentence suggests that people from Alabama are ignorant (or whatever implication you have drawn from it), I will edit it so that it no longer gives that impression.
posted by
gomedome
on June 1, 2006 at 9:02 PM
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I've prayed to God and got an answer in the form of a man's voice,
as if He were standing right beside me. I was walking around my livingroom one morning and I was arguing with God about some things in the Bible, and I said, "Lord, I don't believe the account of the creation." And He said, "Jason, don't believe everything you read."
I know it was God because He has spoken to me many times, and His answers always make sense. Whether someone else has a different God from mine, I can't say. This idea that everybody has a different Higher Power would suggest that there are six billion different gods. I know my God, so I don't worry about anybody else's.
posted by
JasonScyte
on June 1, 2006 at 8:39 PM
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gnome
There you go again profiling. I am from Alabama, it was not I who wrote you, but everybody in Alabama is not ignorant. I live in a small town, there are three Rhodes Scholars in this little town. All is not determined by scholastic degrees is it? I know Christians who are Scientists, (we have lots of those we are 40 miles from NASA) Lawyers, Doctors some form schools like Yale and Harvard and they are Christians. Do you suppose you are the only person with a grip on intelligence? Even you should doubt that! Get over it!
posted by
Justi
on June 1, 2006 at 8:00 PM
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there's a difference
between being the "word of god" and "inspired", which latter the Apostle Paul uses.
the people who wrote were inspired in some way. and virtually any tome of religious thought can be useful -- it can instruct us toward good; or it can instruct us against repeating the mistakes therein -- and it can instruct us of the awkwaqrd invalidity of the religious thought contained therein.
which latter is reality.
that writer mayb have been totally convinced; however, his arguments fail to convince an increasing number of people.
this is where Christianity has to leave archaic concepts and deal effectively with the around. help buld up instead of ignoring.
boy is that inspiration for another post. remind me some time.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 1, 2006 at 1:00 PM
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