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Alas, gomedome,
I don't fully understand how/why faith works the way it does, either. Few Christians I know will admit to questioning their faith once in a while, or may be embarrassed to admit that they even falter in their faith, i.e., have unanswered questions or even some doubt. Just because I believe in something, doesn't mean that I don't have some questions about it. While I don't doubt that these things happened, I'm smart enough to recognize the implausibility of many of them. There are so many things about which I would like some clarity, and I am still searching and looking/waiting for revelation. I believe that it's okay to continue to search for answers. Thanks, again. :)
posted by
BlackPearl1
on May 29, 2006 at 7:17 AM
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BlackPearl1 - this is one area of how the human mind works that I will
never fully comprehend.
There are so many people in this world adhering to religious beliefs that were fabricated to capitalize on the inherent desire of people to believe in God. The history alone of how the Christian religion was constructed should give people pause to reconsider the validity of what they believe but most do not even question it. Instead they put their efforts into reconciling the impraubable aspects fo their religious beliefs with what we know to be possible. It is the lengths that they go to do this that is truly insane.
posted by
gomedome
on May 28, 2006 at 9:37 PM
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Hi, gomedome,
Some would say faith is absent of logic, that "faith is believing when good sense tells you not to" (Ten points if you can guess which movie that's from... :) I guess, that means that faith is "crazy". And I'm cool with that. Just my thoughts. Thanks. :)
posted by
BlackPearl1
on May 28, 2006 at 9:13 PM
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Xeno-x - there have been many arguments for both a local flood
and a worldwide flood.
All positions on this are based on mythology however, with attempted corroboration from archealogy or geology. The problem with this method of research is that the conclusion, or at least a bias towards proving a particular story, is drawn from the mythology, then physical evidence is used to build a case for corroboration. It should be the other way around. The physical evidence should tell us what happened with the weather in certain regions of the world, not preposterous stories.
posted by
gomedome
on May 28, 2006 at 9:06 PM
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several floods
probably local --
but Noah's could have been inspired by at least three events.
- the inundating of the mediterranean basin with the melting of the ice sheets of the last ice age.
- pretty extensive flooding in and around Mesopotamia, which spawned the gilgamesh story.
- the inundation of the Black See once the Mediterranean filled up.
problem with believers is, they take the Noah story as gospel truth, and fail to consider the events listed above. could be some guy did buld a boat -- who knows -- could have had prior warning -- then this could have been the Mediterranean even because there could have been warning.
also, the story itself has to be separated into its varous parts.
a priestly version, a Yahvist, an eloist and a deuternomonist. more than one story inintertwined ther (notice, for example, one passage saying that all animals went in two by two and another saying that it was two of unclean and seven of clean that went in to the ark). this is from two different versions.
08211 has a good take on all this. good questions from a Christian minister -- surprising.
but they need to believe that is all truth -- that's their rock.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 28, 2006 at 1:25 PM
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saul_relative - exactly - I particularly liked this part >>>>>>>
"........modern technologized and "enlightened" world." . . .
It is about time some folks come and join us in the corporeal world as well as the 21st century.
posted by
gomedome
on May 26, 2006 at 6:31 PM
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They become crazy, gomedome, when their faith becomes reality and
and dominates everything they do. Definition of fanatic, read as "faithful". Good post. Funny, I had this same conversation with my fiance just the other day, about superstition still permeating the culture of our modern technologized and "enlightened" world.
posted by
saul_relative
on May 26, 2006 at 2:06 PM
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