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Blogflogger, thanks for beating me to that discussion
Gore is ridiculed for that simply because he comes across as a pompous know-it-all who is way too full of himself and his own sense of self-importance. No wonder he has such a hard time getting over 2000. Oh, and by the way, the focus of all this was global warming . . .
posted by
WriterofLight
on May 30, 2006 at 7:15 PM
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By the way, Xenox the Warrior Princess . ..
Count those links again, and examine them both. There will be more, much more, as we conduct this debate that Shawn says doesn't exist.
posted by
WriterofLight
on May 30, 2006 at 7:12 PM
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xenox: Global Warming is a Fact? Question mark?
Note that I question "global warming," meaning the notion that it's all our fault, as Shawn theTall and Skinny Poet claimed. I do not question the fact that the climate is changing, but I do most earnestly question the reasons being given for it.
If it's all man's fault, how do you explain concurrent warming on Mars? Take a look at this chart of solar activity compared to climate change and explain how we are to control the solar activity that is causing the warming and cooling cycles: http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun-on-earth/varsun.html
posted by
WriterofLight
on May 30, 2006 at 7:11 PM
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Ah, yes, Tall and Skinny, the Time article!
Precisely the kind of junk science, substituting panic-mongering and deliberate misrepresentation of data for honest analysis that I decry in the movie, and discredited in the links I gave. The debate is far from over; I think it's barely begun.
Since you mention that popular votes count in Presidential elections, what make you of President Bush's 3,000,000 vote popular vote victory in 2004? Talk about an inconvenient truth . . . (see
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/ )
Concerning Gore and the Internet, this from http://www.walthowe.com/navnet/history.html:
Did Al Gore invent the Internet?
According to a CNN transcript of an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Al Gore said,"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Al Gore was not yet in Congress in 1969 when ARPANET started or in 1974 when the term Internet first came into use. Gore was elected to Congress in 1976. In fairness, Bob Kahn and Vint Cerf acknowledge in a paper titled Al Gore and the Internet that Gore has probably done more than any other elected official to support the growth and development of the Internet from the 1970's to the present .
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Oh, and sorry if I come across as condescending, but after being inundated with condescension because I'm so politically incorrect 
I can barely help it. Many thanks for the read!
posted by
WriterofLight
on May 30, 2006 at 7:04 PM
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If you're going to slam someone, at least gets your facts straight.
During a interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN, May 9, 1999, Gore stated, "But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
Gore was one of the few in government who understood what the Internet could mean, and yes, he worked hard to bring the technology into common use. He was popularizing the term "information superhighway" in the early 1990s when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic). His actions in Congress greatly assisted in the emergence of the Internet for the masses.
Pretty small-minded to pick nits as small as this one, and the right has been picking this particular nit for 7 years. How about you guys give this urban legend a rest, eh?
posted by
blogflogger
on May 24, 2006 at 2:29 PM
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yeah and i see your one link, purveyorofdarkness
tells us that DDT is good ---
well, I guess you don't have opportunity to see the increased number of bald eagles.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 24, 2006 at 8:01 AM
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global warming is a fact
period.
Antarctic ice sheets melting, Greenland's melting, glaciers retreating, the Hudson's Bay area becoming home to warmer clime plants and animals, the ice covering for a shorter period of the year, endangering polar bears, less snow of the Rocky Mountains, sea levels rising right now and people being displaced as a result.
these are facts.
oh yes -- the hurricanes -- let's see what happens this year in spite of the NWS rosy predictions.
the only ones differing are those with interest in maintaining the current (or greater) levels of pollutants in the atmosphere to help perpetuate the source of the problem.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 24, 2006 at 7:57 AM
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Good Having Opinions Like Yours
A very entertaining read. As far as global warming is concerned, however, the debate is over. It's here, we're already seeing it's effects, and man's contribution is significant and undeniable. There was a cover story from Time that came out about a month ago that I would recommend you read. Gore also never said he invented the Internet and won by 500,000 popular votes in 2000, although I accept the electoral college because it's (unfortunately) the law of the land. I respect your opinions and it looks like you might have some good sources - I think if you were less condescending and threw in more facts it would help you make your points better and actually convert some people to your point of view. Keep it coming!
--Shawn, "Tall and Skinny Politico".
posted by
TallAndSkinnyPoet
on May 23, 2006 at 10:31 PM
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