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Justi, talk about tiresome. Amen.
Thanks for your kind words and no, I've not discovered muser's blog. I shall go there next!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on May 22, 2006 at 6:41 PM
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Uh, Gome, did you actually read the damn thing?
I was talking about atheism -- atheist dictatorship vs the American version of, shall we say, personal atheism. We all know that these countries were led by communists who happened to be atheists and who dictated atheism for all of their citizens. Forgive me if that was too much of a leap for you to make.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on May 22, 2006 at 6:40 PM
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Janes,
Have you read Muser's MEMO FROM HELL?
posted by
Justi
on May 22, 2006 at 5:46 PM
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Jane's Thank you so for this post.
I fully understand what you are saying and why as well as how you came to it. Some days it is so tiresome. God created man in His image and man has been busy all these many years trying to return the favor.
My feeling is this: Those who have made up their minds so fully have exercised their prerogative. I wish they would not feel so important to think I am talking to or about them. My only feeling on that is there is not enough money in the entire world to have me change spiritual places with anyone of them.
posted by
Justi
on May 22, 2006 at 5:45 PM
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JanesOpinion - sure thing - now you are telling us what you have written
is not what you meant. ....
posted by
gomedome
on May 21, 2006 at 7:53 PM
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Thank you, dear Taps, for your kind and gracious comments.
It is fun to see everyone's very unique style of writing, eh? My humor tends toward sarcasm, and darn it all but I just cannot seem to help myself.
Thank you for your comments.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on May 21, 2006 at 5:55 PM
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Ariel70, I appreciate your comments. Thanks for stopping by.
I believe -- non-theologican here -- that you must be referring to homosexuality as it was discussed in the Old Testament. Putting to death a homosexual is not suggested in the NT, to my knowledge. Thanks to the horrific payment Jesus made on the cross, the penalty was paid and animal sacrifice and human death no longer required.
I've noticed some discussion on blogit recently about the human sacrifices in Christianity. I believe Kooka may have discussed this, although I could be wrong. Yeah, there were many laws and rules in the Old Testament that were incredibly rigid and harsh, including killing those who were homosexual and murderers and others. I'm not sure I could have followed those laws, but believe that God had his reasons. Which is why, in the New Testament, the perspective shifts thanks to Jesus' death on the cross. He paid the penalty of sin once and for all. So whether one is homosexual, bisexual, a murderer, a thief -- or your average imperfect every day human -- when God looks at an imperfect person who has accepted the sacrifice Jesus paid for him or her, he only sees the perfection of Christ. That's the difference now!
So I'm not being, as you called it, incredibly selective -- but you are entitled to your opinion, and I do appreciate the dialogue!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on May 21, 2006 at 5:53 PM
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Gee gome. Is it news to you that the USSR, a former communist country,
was also atheistic? The state religion was atheism. There's definitely a connection. But in case you missed it, what I was stating was essentially an egreement with you that you cannot compare atheism in general, such as so called American atheism, to the dictatorial atheism imposed on people living in communist countries.
Geez o pete, cool your jets. In no way shape or form was I comparing atheism with communism.
Hallo.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on May 21, 2006 at 5:39 PM
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JanesOpinion - This is a ridiculous statement
"You have no idea how grateful I am that I was not forced to be an atheist. I did not have to attend a State school and listen to teachers pontificate on how wonderful the leader is, and how we should only obey and worship the State leader (N. Korea, for example); or sit in indoctrination classes listening to teachers brainwashing students into believing there is no God -- the State will more than take the place of God (former USSR). Thanks for your efforts, but no thanks! But if the concepts of atheism float your boat -- errr, I guess more power to you."
It is nothing more than the confusing of the practices of certain communist states and their political ideologies with their treatment of religious belief. The words "communist" and "atheist" are not now interchangeable in the English language simply because of a few examples of policies as found in former communist regimes. What extremely shallow reasoning.
posted by
gomedome
on May 21, 2006 at 2:37 PM
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JanesOpinion, I loved reading this post. It is so "JanesO." I just love the way that you express yourself. I can see your emotions in your writing and as I read, I sit here and grin, not sarcastically or in derision but because I can tell that it is very important to you and yet you get humor in there too. In this post you have done exactly what God expects us to do--to share the Gospel and your own personal testimony. No matter how much one wants "proof" it is not ours to give. There definitely is proof but God will give it in his own time whether it is wanted then or not.
posted by
TAPS.
on May 21, 2006 at 2:29 PM
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Janesopinion
I repeat that altho' I don't share them, I respect your religious beliefs, but I must take issue with you on at least one point ( it's too late at night to comment at great length, and take issue with you on anything else)
You accuse XenoX, and by implication others, of picking and choosing in the Bible to support their case. Does it not occur to you, and other Christians in here, that that is precisely what every single Christian on the face of this planet does.
They all, without a single exception choose to believe/disbelieve things in the Bible. For example, how many Christians now believe that homosexuals should be put to death? And yet being a practising homosexual is to be be a serial sinner.
So, by your, admittedly compassionate, humanitarian, acceptance of serial sinners, and their serial sins, you are defying the Bible in refusing to recognise that homosexuality is a sin. In other words, you are saying that you know better than the word of your God. He says it's a sin, but you say, no it isn't.
Wow! if that isn't being selective, then I don't know what is!
Enjoy your Sabbath
posted by
ariel70
on May 21, 2006 at 2:26 PM
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redwood, I believe you missed my sarcasm.
I guess we do choose our gods; however, that said, I choose to believe the God of the Bible.
Thanks for stopping by.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on May 21, 2006 at 2:09 PM
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is everybody right?
On this planet, everyone gets to have their day in the sun. Everyone gets to be right some of the time. I think that you are correct in saying that we choose the god that we will spend eternity with.
posted by
redwood
on May 21, 2006 at 12:40 PM
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