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Luk 1:30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
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Luk 1:31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
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Luk 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
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Luk 1:33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
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Luk 1:34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
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Luk 1:35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Luk 1:35 And 2532 the angel 32 answered 611 and said 2036 unto her 846, The Holy 40 Ghost 4151 shall come 1904 upon 1909 thee 4571, and 2532 the power 1411 of the Highest 5310 shall overshadow 1982 thee 4671: therefore 1352 also 2532 that holy thing 40 which shall be born 1080 of 1537 thee 4675 shall be called 2564 the Son 5207 of God 2316.

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let's try  one of the operative phrases:  "shall come" "a) of time, come on, be at hand, be future"

the other:  shall overshadow 1982  "1) to throw a shadow upon, to envelop in a shadow, to overshadow"

let's look at all the occurences of this particular word:

Mat 17:5 While he 846 yet 2089 spake 2980 , behold 2400 , a bright 5460 cloud 3507 overshadowed 1982 them 846: and 2532 behold 2400 a voice 5456 out of 1537 the cloud 3507, which said 3004 , This 3778 is 2076 my 3450 beloved 27 Son 5207, in 1722 whom 3739 I am well pleased 2106 ; hear ye 191 him 846.
Mar 9:7 And 2532 there was 1096 a cloud 3507 that overshadowed 1982 them 846: and 2532 a voice 5456 came 2064 out of 1537 the cloud 3507, saying 3004 , This 3778 is 2076 my 3450 beloved 27 Son 5207: hear 191 him 846.
Luk 1:35 And 2532 the angel 32 answered 611 and said 2036 unto her 846, The Holy 40 Ghost 4151 shall come 1904 upon 1909 thee 4571, and 2532 the power 1411 of the Highest 5310 shall overshadow 1982 thee 4671: therefore 1352 also 2532 that holy thing 40 which shall be born 1080 of 1537 thee 4675 shall be called 2564 the Son 5207 of God 2316.
Luk 9:34 While 1161 he 846 thus 5023 spake 3004 , there came 1096 a cloud 3507, and 2532 overshadowed 1982 them 846: and 1161 they feared 5399 as 1722 they 1565 entered 1525 into 1519 the cloud 3507.
Act 5:15 Insomuch 5620 that they brought forth 1627 the sick 772 into 2596 the streets 4113, and 2532 laid 5087 [them] on 1909 beds 2825 and 2532 couches 2895, that 2443 at the least 2579 the shadow 4639 of Peter 4074 passing by 2064 might overshadow 1982 some 5100 of them 846.

this is the only place wher it is inferred that a person conceives out of that overshadowing.

let's go on, regardint "the son"

1) a son  -- not the son.

now read below.

a) rarely used for the young of animals

b) generally used of the offspring of men

c) in a restricted sense, the male offspring (one born by a father and of a mother)

d) in a wider sense, a descendant, one of the posterity of any one,

1) the children of Israel

2) sons of Abraham

e)) used to describe one who depends on another or is his follower

1) a pupil

2) son of man

a) term describing man, carrying the connotation of weakness and mortality

b) son of man, symbolically denotes the fifth kingdom in Daniel 7:13 and by this term its humanity is indicated in contrast with the barbarity and ferocity of the four preceding kingdoms (the Babylonian, the Median and the Persian, the Macedonian, and the Roman) typified by the four beasts. In the book of Enoch (2nd Century) it is used of Christ.

c) used by Christ himself, doubtless in order that he might intimate his Messiahship and also that he might designate himself as the head of the human family, the man, the one who both furnished the pattern of the perfect man and acted on behalf of all mankind. Christ seems to have preferred this to the other Messianic titles, because by its lowliness it was least suited to foster the expectation of an earthly Messiah in royal splendour.

3) son of God

a) used to describe Adam (Lk. 3:38)

b) used to describe those who are born again (Lk. 20:36) and of angels and of Jesus Christ

c) of those whom God esteems as sons, whom he loves, protects and benefits above others

1) in the OT used of the Jews

2) in the NT of Christians

3) those whose character God, as a loving father, shapes by chastisements (Heb. 12:5-8)

d) those who revere God as their father, the pious worshippers of God, those who in character and life resemble God, those who are governed by the Spirit of God, repose the same calm and joyful trust in God which children do in their parents (Rom. 8:14, Gal. 3:26 ), and hereafter in the blessedness and glory of the life eternal will openly wear this dignity of the sons of God. Term used preeminently of Jesus Christ, as enjoying the supreme love of God, united to him in affectionate intimacy, privy to his saving councils, obedient to the Father's will in all his acts



posted by Xeno-x on April 26, 2006 at 11:13 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - forgive me for saying this but >>>>>
If someone came up with this yarn today, they'd get laughed out of town.

posted by gomedome on April 25, 2006 at 5:31 PM | link to this | reply

Matthew doesn't give as detailed an account
of the birth of Jesus as Luke does. The angel tells Mary: "He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High." Then he tells her: "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you>" The Holy Spirit and the Most High are two different entities. She was overcome by the Holy Spirit so she could withstand the presence of the Most High, who is God the Father.

posted by JasonScyte on April 25, 2006 at 4:58 PM | link to this | reply