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homegirl
my 'cheese' is writing, but I have not yet reached the level in which I cna live off of that.
I think my new job is going to be one I will enjoy enough that it won't drive me crazy to do.

posted by kooka_lives on April 14, 2006 at 8:59 PM | link to this | reply

YOU NEED TO FIND YOUR CHEESE

 

There is a book entitled "who moved my cheese" or something like that.  Corporate America just does not work as it used to....  no one respects experience or education anymore, or at least they are not willing to compensate for it in the same way.

I am convinced that to do nearly as well as our parents did, that self employment is the only answer... if we are not willing to take risks... we might as well settle for $12.00 when we used to get $20

posted by homegirl on April 14, 2006 at 10:48 AM | link to this | reply

I hear you...
cost of living keeps rising but employers don't want to pay what you are truly worth. Those bonuses are kept for the managers that can squeeze the most sweat out of you.

posted by WritersBlok on April 12, 2006 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

Xenox-babe -- have you looked at what nurses are making nowdays?

Nurses at the  hospital in my small to medium sized city (notorious for not paying well) start out at over $17/hr.  Many big city nurses are making $50-60,000/yr and more.  I would say the average pay for nurses is a minimum of  $40,000/yr.  Lots of men are doing this, are working in very high acuity, high tech intensive care/emergency/surgery/heart cath labs (etc) and doing well.  For those nurses who wish to further their schooling, a Master of Science in Nursing degree with different specialties could increase pay to $70,000 plus.  Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists are in high demand, and will easily make $100,000 plus, plus, plus.

I went to school with a nurse who was also a paramedic, and a flight nurse. When he graduated with his MSN/FNP (family nurse practitioner, which is what I am) AND his MBA -- he said he would not accept a job for a penny less than $140,000/year. 

Since Kooka has a degree already, there are many programs that will offer a BA/BS to BSN degree in about 1.5 years (or so).  Some schools of nursing will offer an expedited BA/BS to BSN to MSN in just a couple of years.  Kooka, nursing is a calling, but much less so than it used to be.  You'd be amazed at how high tech ICUs have become.  One of my fav jobs was in ICU, and I worked with post open heart patients, head trauma patients -- you name it.  We were high tech, high adrenaline, had to manage frequent crises and were at the top of the nurse heap so to speak.  We had to undergo advanced education before even setting foot in the ICU as well as many weeks of orientation.  But it was worth every hour of study and labor. 

It's hard work, demanding, one must have people skills, be compassionate and smart.  And men are discovering that, indeed, it's a damn good career.

But of course, all that said, I'm not encouraging you to do this, necessarily -- just wanting to give you info from someone who has been there, done that. . . . for 10+ years.  My friend, Xenox, doesn't quite have all the facts!

posted by JanesOpinion on April 11, 2006 at 7:08 PM | link to this | reply

janeybaby
i think the point is that jobs are getting scarcer.

so we will have lots of men becoming nurses.

good idea except for the pay.
the women nurses complain about the low pay, bad working conditons, for-profits taking over the medical industry and cutting back on help and providing of proper care for the patients.

you have inspired a great idea for a post -- conservatives and religioius fundamentalists promoting the man as the head of the famly and chief breadwinner, yet at the same time accepting a job market where the pay is inisufficient to support a family.

this would mean that more than one member works and could have more than one job (it's happening).

posted by Xeno-x on April 11, 2006 at 7:39 AM | link to this | reply

Janes

If I had the money and some level of interest that might not be a bad idea.  I saw a lot of job openings for nurses in my area today at monster.com.  Although I am not sure if I would be up for the 12 hour shifts and such.

A nurse is more like calling though than a job you go into just because.  I really do not think such a job is for me.

posted by kooka_lives on April 10, 2006 at 8:07 PM | link to this | reply

Ah, CR*P that's the pits, Kooka. I'm sorry that job did not work out.

how about going back to school to be a nurse. . . lots of men are doing it!  (That was 90% jest, since you don't seem like the type who would consider it -- but the jobs are certainly there -- at least until Medicare goes bankrupt.)

Hang in there.

posted by JanesOpinion on April 10, 2006 at 6:55 PM | link to this | reply