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there are all sorts of things happening that make me question corbin_dallas
and other conservatives' rosy view of things (which make their president look good [he sure ashell is not MY president]}

GM lays off tens of thousends
Ford lays off and closes plants
manufacturing plants all over the country close down because the jobs are now out of the country.
well paying jobs are fewer. 
the news is full of employees having to take cutbacks in wages and fewer medical benefits if they want to keep their jobs and the employer from closing its doors.
labor unions are the least effective they've been for decades
so how the hell can this translate into an economic upturn?
WHERE ARE the manufacturing jobs?  the large auto makers are laying off tens of thousands -- that's not them.
even  the traditionally low paying garment and shoe industries (on which  hundreds of thousands of small town people depended for an income) have relocated overseas.
so what manufacturing jobs have replaced those?
I knkow!!!  - fry cook at Mcdonalds!!!!  -- that is now considered a "manufacturing" job.
funny how the government skewers things -- and conservaties here like corbin-dallas, writeroflight and seangray.
all fall in lock (goose) step with the government no matter how totally unrealistic the whole pile of bullshit is.

posted by Xeno-x on March 8, 2006 at 8:05 AM | link to this | reply

Corbin, you need to learn to read

That graph is not showing you the dollar amounts, it is showing the percent change.  It is obvious that costs are rising at a higher and higher percent every month.  Basically it says we are paying more very month for food and gas with nearly five percent increase a month, and no one I know gets a five percent raise a month.  You will also notice that prices are not going down at any point, so we are at a continuous increase in prices with out pay going up in the same manner.

I looked at what the graphs were saying and told the truth about them.  You are the one who looked at the graphs and was clueless as to what was being shown there. And although antiwar.com may have something of any agenda (And at least it is a positive agenda that can help our country), it is much less selfish of one than the Conservative B.S source you use.

And you still have yet to provide me with the source for your information.

posted by kooka_lives on March 8, 2006 at 7:46 AM | link to this | reply

Ohh, and as for the unemployment rates
let's not forget underemployment and what kinds of jobs were created.  Are they jobs for college graduates?  Are they jobs for high school kids and immigrants without papers?  I'm sure it would be interesting to see.

posted by brettnik on March 8, 2006 at 7:27 AM | link to this | reply

Conservatives don't read the Economist because it tells the truth
from a non-American perspective.  Neither do they listen to the BBC or IPR.  They don't care about what ANYONE thinks outside of this country, and those of them who are less enlightened 9not all of them) get their news from places like Fox and Rush Limbaugh.  What you've got in your post is the truth.  Inconveniently, it doesn't fit into their schema, and therefore has little validity.

posted by brettnik on March 8, 2006 at 7:25 AM | link to this | reply

I didn't even see your charts.....

But upon looking at the priceing one......perhaps you should reconsider you out of control remarks....

Food pricing is lower that 1996 and the food and non food are only a couple of tenths of a percent above 1996.....perhaps you are refering to the look of the graph.....It does look wild doesn't it.....

I love your sources on the war.......Antiwar.com.......and common dreams....now there's two groups without an agenda or political slant.....  ROTFLMAO........

I love the cut and paste mentality.......after you link to a graph.....try and analize it's contents.......not the visual aspect........

posted by Corbin_Dallas on March 8, 2006 at 7:15 AM | link to this | reply

Thank you...
Although not everyone will be happy about your post, Thank you, for giving a more factual, practical, and honest view of the country today.  With the endless scandals hitting, and the arrogance being shown to us, I have a hard time understanding the sense of loyalty.  Bush's administration has become everything their fundamentalist backing tells the rest of us we'll rot in hell for.

posted by LifeByLisa on March 7, 2006 at 6:11 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin
Are you saying the government web site that I got my graphs from is based on small events and exceptions?

Could you please give me a source for your information?  How is it any more relabel than mine?  What makes your source the real facts while my many sources are all 'exceptions'?
Since I put up a  link for all to be able to see where I got my information from so that it was clear I was not pulling it out of my ass and that a lot of this was very much non- partisan information, I would ask the same curtesy form you.  After all you can go and see all the facts I have presented here.
You information is meaningless to me until I can go and check the source itself.

And just to try and halt your ego, I only put your name here because you were the one who made the challenge.  I do not use bloggers names to get clicks.

posted by kooka_lives on March 7, 2006 at 3:19 PM | link to this | reply

I love it when people have to use my name in their posts.........

I loe you little links to small events and exceptions to the economy.....

Here's some real economic information......

On February 3, 2006, The Unemployment Rate Fell For The Second Straight Month. The unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent - the lowest monthly rate since July 2001 and lower than the average of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. In January, the economy created 193,000 jobs and has created over 2 million jobs over the past 12 months, and more than 4.7 million since August 2003.

The Economy Is Strong And Continues To Grow

  • Consumers Are Confident. The Conference Board index of consumer confidence surpassed expectations and rose to 106.3 in January - the highest level in over three years. According to the Conference Board, the number of consumers saying that jobs are "plentiful" rose to its highest level in over four years. Additionally, the University of Michigan consumer sentiment index reflected strong consumer confidence.
  • Incomes Increase. Real disposable incomes rose 0.4 percent in December and were up 1.4 percent for 2005. Since January 2001, real after-tax income per person has risen 7.9 percent. Real household net worth is at $51.1 trillion - an all-time high.
  • Retail Sales Rise. Nominal retail sales rose 0.7 percent in December and are up 6.4 percent from 2004. In December, real consumer spending posted a solid 0.9 percent gain and increased 3.4 percent over the past year.
  • Manufacturing Continues To Expand. The Institute for Supply Management (ISM), a private research group, reports manufacturing activity grew for the 32nd consecutive month in January. The ISM's manufacturing index reading of 54.8 indicates continued sector expansion. According to the Federal Reserve, total industrial production increased a solid 0.6 percent in December and manufacturing industrial production is up 3.8 percent over the past 12 months.
  • Durable Goods Orders Rise In December. New orders for durable goods surpassed expectations and increased 1.3 percent in December. New orders for machinery rose 6.5 percent - attaining the highest level since the series began in 1992. Over the past 12 months, new orders have increased 12.7 percent
  • Productivity Growth Is Strong. During the past four quarters, productivity has increased 2.3 percent. Productivity has grown at a 3.2 percent annual rate since the end of 2000.
  • Construction Spending Is At An All-Time High. Construction spending rose 1.0 percent in December. For 2005, spending reached a record $1.120 trillion - an increase of 8.9 percent over the previous record set in 2004. Housing starts in 2005 totaled 2.065 million units - 5.6% above 2004 and the highest level in over 30 years. Total sales of existing homes hit an all-time high of 7.072 million units in 2005 - up 4.2 percent from 2004. More Americans now own their homes than at any time in the Nation's history, and minority home ownership is at a record high.
  • Inflation Remains In Check. The Consumer Price Index (CPI) fell 0.1 percent in December reflecting a fall in energy prices. Core CPI has increased a moderate 2.2 percent over the past year, indicating core inflation remains contained.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on March 7, 2006 at 2:45 PM | link to this | reply

good job

our administration and its apologists, like CorinDallas and writerof light and Sean "Puffy" Gray willnot tellus the truth.  They will feed us misinformation and thenthere's a chainn of acceptance of that misinformation down the ranks.

I think i've said this before:

Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

George Bush says, "You just have to fool enough of the people enough of the time."

The real question is, "How much more fooling can this nation take?"

posted by Xeno-x on March 7, 2006 at 1:45 PM | link to this | reply