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Gee,like "It's a wrap", "SPEED!", and "Editor's cut";all anachronisms

...as I "type" this on my "keyboard".

 

Anyone remember (or google ) "Allison Krause" and "May 4"?

I'll add..."1970"

posted by majroj on March 5, 2006 at 1:30 PM | link to this | reply

Maj, interesting thought, the "floor" of the AVID is the
metaphorical "trash" bin that sits in the corner of every Macintosh computer.

posted by Cynthia on March 5, 2006 at 1:12 PM | link to this | reply

That way none of your music winds up "on the cutting room floor"
Does "AVID" have a "floor"?

posted by majroj on March 5, 2006 at 8:52 AM | link to this | reply

Prof, you are absolutely correct, as maj indicated too, the music
score can make or break a film. But I am talking about Documentary film here, not feature film. I find that documentary makers rarely have a concept that involves thinking about the music when they start shooting, and they should, They usually wait till post production and stick in music as an after thought.

posted by Cynthia on March 5, 2006 at 6:18 AM | link to this | reply

Maj, your range of interests astounds me.
You always joke about how you know a little bit about a lot of stuff, but when you really get involved with something your knowledge goes deep indeed..

posted by Cynthia on March 5, 2006 at 6:14 AM | link to this | reply

Remember how Paul Muni looked? The best character actors ARE their parts

It can be argued that the best music is unmemorable while supporting the mood.

I liked the  movie "Twister". I bought the soundtrack because I wanted to hear the marvelous "chase scene" music where a tense orchestra segues into Van Halen's "Shine On". It introduced me to Lisa Loeb's "Firecracker", Alison Krause's work, but probably because there was a meld of orchaestra (whose music had it's own "movie score" CD, which I also own) and big-label Van Halen, it is heard only on the movie's soundtrack, where it lends urgency, propulsion, and a "bitchin' " rythmn to what would otherwise just be a series of sudden cuts and expensive helicopter pans and zooms of a bunch of silly looking beat up trucks and cars.

 

PS: buy the score CD used to hear the grafting of the theme from "Oklahoma!" to "The William Tell Overture". Funnnnnny.....

 

PS: loose association...What do the name "Allison Krause" and May 4th have in common?

posted by majroj on March 3, 2006 at 10:30 PM | link to this | reply

Music in a film.

Dear  Cynthia, I thnk the music as background or filler is very important. Try to think about a thriller without music and it would like a Charlie Chaplain movie. The background music is soon forgotten except the very big hits, but the scene would stick to the mind before associating it with the music.

At this moment, I cannot remember the music background of the big Cecil B. DeMills, Ten Commandments. Movies like Ben Hur, Spartacus, Helen of Troy, etc. but I know there was good music background. Maybe it is better to hire a band or a group of enthusiastic music student to compose some background rather than pick up known music which will drive the production close to bankruptcy.

I wish I can say more.. regards..  Prof.

posted by PROF-SUMAKEL33 on March 3, 2006 at 9:13 PM | link to this | reply

Two observations. No, three.

1. Nowadays if they used copyrighted material in the working stages, they pay some journeyman to write a "sound alike" jingle to use in the final, especially for ads.

2. I was talking with my wife's cousin who produced, etc., "Naked in Ashes". They had the composer in mind going into it, not a big name but good, and he worked with them on the music as the project progressed. I enjoyed the music per se.

3. Oh, yeah...then you can publish a soundtrack albumn without permissions!

posted by majroj on March 2, 2006 at 7:39 PM | link to this | reply