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Gomedome did a great job of saying all that needed to be said, so I let his reply speak for me as well.
Yes, I am being lazy.
posted by
kooka_lives
on February 2, 2006 at 4:12 PM
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look in my DIARY OF A DRUIDIC CHRISTIAN
to see the pantheon i prefer.
http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/celtic-mythology.php?deity=LUGH
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 2, 2006 at 3:32 PM
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before established religion
most every society was naturistically deistic
hows that for a mouthful
Kooka doesn't mind -- i'm his dad
and the pantheons of civilization took over.
and there was a deity in every ting encountered.
thing is i still think so -- god should not be separated from experience or what is experienced and encountered.
basically i think atheism rejects the notion of a idol-god, an image graven from perishable materials and in faulty minds, and accepts that which should be deified in the first place.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 2, 2006 at 3:05 PM
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Thanks SuccessWarrior and Xeno!
I think I need to research Ra some more! I like the idea of not meddling. To me the American Indians are quite impressive, at least the ones I have been able to study, their natural respect for everything just as it is. I would imagine that a lot of their beliefs are universal if I just new where to look. Seemed like the Indians were doing quite well until they were branded "heathens/infidels" and someone at some point in time decided to "help them for their own good."
posted by
lost_hillbilly
on February 2, 2006 at 2:54 PM
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Ra is also Awonwilona and the root word of dieties in several different
languages.
posted by
gomedome
on February 2, 2006 at 1:45 PM
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interesting the gods
in hot Egypt, it's the sun
in forested Celtic Britain, it's a forest god.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 2, 2006 at 1:43 PM
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well ra gave rise to aten?????
i think
anyways the sun god -- that was Akenaten's god and the source of the short-lived Egyptian monotheism (Tut was an heir caught up in the intrique) -- but could very well be the predecessor to the Hebrew monotheism.
my favorite god, though, is Cerunnos, god of the hunt and of nature and of the underworld.
(Arawn, basically same god -- god of the hunt.
Celtic gods.
pretty cool huh?
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 2, 2006 at 1:39 PM
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The egyptian god that drives his fiery chariot (the sun) across the heavens
He also doesn't believe in meddling much in the lives of the people of the earth. A nice aspect.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on February 2, 2006 at 1:06 PM
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SuccessWarrior....
i am already confused! So go ahead and add to it! LOL! What in the world is "Ra?"
posted by
lost_hillbilly
on February 2, 2006 at 12:52 PM
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lost_hillbilly -- there is a lot more to the motivation of both
atheists and agnostics which compells them to enter into religious debate. It isn't about proving anything for most people and all about taking an active role in shaping the perceptions of a world we must all live in. There is no real choice for an individual in terms of what they believe. In most cases the individual was blessed or cursed, depending on perspective, with a certain type of mind which has reacted naturally to it's own environmental stimulae and influencing factors over their lifetime. Personally, I could not care less if any other person on this planet believes as I do. I just simply refuse to be ostracised or treated as a second class citizen, by those who claim to be adhering to one religion or another. This ostracism isn't imaginary, it's perpetuated routinely, both in a subtle and outright manner. From the proliferation of fictional negative stereotypes, to the sense of entitlement held by those subscribing to the erroneous notion that "religious" belief somehow makes an individual a better person. If the dissenting opinions were never advanced as a counterbalance to religious fervor, this world would be an even bigger mess than it is now.
posted by
gomedome
on February 2, 2006 at 12:39 PM
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I've been thinking about believing in Ra
Just because I enjoy the sunshine so much
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on February 2, 2006 at 11:44 AM
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Kooka, Xeno and White Jedi....
I am asking this simply because I don't know and feel as if I can learn from this. It just seems that Atheists waste a LOT of time and energy proving that there is no God, and on the other hand, the believers waste the same amount of time and energy trying to prove that there is a God. It seems to me that the Atheists would have the upper hand here. If they choose not to believe, then what is the big deal? Seems to me logic would dictate that the "believers" would simply live by example, show by practice instead of preaching. If memory serves me correctly, hypocrisy is one of the "Cardinal" sins. I look forward to each of your replies! Thanks!
posted by
lost_hillbilly
on February 2, 2006 at 11:13 AM
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agreed
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 2, 2006 at 10:12 AM
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kooka_lives -- you think that you are bigger than God -- don't you?
I thought that all atheists thought that about themselves? That's what they told me the last time I went to church, mind you, they also said that Jesus was coming back.
posted by
gomedome
on February 2, 2006 at 9:10 AM
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I also dislike the misconception that atheists hate God. What is far more accurate is that an Atheist simply doesn't believe God exists. We can't hate what doesn't exist.
posted by
WhiteJedi
on February 2, 2006 at 8:49 AM
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