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I consecrate my oil to use in dressings. Add a little vinegar and some chiv
es. Hmmm Hmmmm!
Keep on truckin fellow catholic escapee. The Nuns used to rapp me on the knuckles witha pointer. The first time I ever got the strap was from a toturess in black robes.
posted by
Bud-Oracle
on February 3, 2006 at 10:21 PM
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Melody - yes that's it, my response to comments is determined solely by
what parts of the body that an individual shaves.
Or I may have just missed it.
posted by
gomedome
on February 3, 2006 at 8:58 AM
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Dear Gome
I see you show favor towards Crimson. When I humbly asked permission to address Jolly, the red carpet wasn't rolled out. It was silence of the lamb.
Is it my lack of testosterone?
Melody
posted by
CunningLinguist
on February 3, 2006 at 1:00 AM
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CrimsonCarouse -- you can carry on conversations in my comments section
anytime.
It's simply good for business. I've had people in the past get into arguments in my comments section and sat back to watch the click counter go crazy. For the record, I have my own disdain for catholicism, having spent 8 years in a catholic mission school as a ward of some of this planet's most severe wackos.
posted by
gomedome
on February 2, 2006 at 10:54 PM
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Melody
I don't hate Catholics I hate Catholicism. Wait. Sorry Gome this is your post.
posted by
CrimsonCarouse
on February 2, 2006 at 8:10 PM
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Pat_B - that's a valid point
The number of people that believe or have faith in either, has a direct impact on the effectiveness of the stimulae upon the list of human variables that I describe in this post. People believing in anything, eventually reaches a critical mass. This is the point where the majority holding a particular belief perpetuates the belief itself.
posted by
gomedome
on February 2, 2006 at 10:37 AM
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the diff between voodoo and Christianity
one diff is the number of people who believe it.
posted by
Pat_B
on February 2, 2006 at 10:13 AM
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WhiteJedi - I had that stuff rammed down my throat as well when I was a kid
Exorcism was still being discussed in our nuthouse of a school, Satan was behind every tree (and we lived in a heavily forested area). What gibbling dribbling drivelling nonsense to be teaching children and it can be understood why some people do believe such things for a time in their lives. The information came from an authority figure, as we grow up, we have been left to sort out the real from the contrived. . . . But to see a fully grown adult, in this day and age, buying into this crap, is even scarier.
posted by
gomedome
on February 2, 2006 at 9:03 AM
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Scary.
What's even scarier is that I used to believe oil could be consecrated and used in blessings.
posted by
WhiteJedi
on February 2, 2006 at 8:55 AM
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Aww - what kind of madness rule the world today
Say there for the Grace of God go I ... I've been segregated. Oh well, I suppose I cannot be loved by everyone. By the way, I'm not the Cunninglinguist... I'm his friend,
Melody
posted by
CunningLinguist
on February 2, 2006 at 6:25 AM
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Melody - the problem with all of the symbolic gestures in some of the
older religions is that, over the years they infiltrate and obscure the underlying message. People begin to think that congregating in a building once a week and genu-flecting (sp.) when they walk pass an alter, is the means to demonstrate one's adherance to a life guiding philosophy.
posted by
gomedome
on February 1, 2006 at 8:59 PM
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CrimsonCarouse -- your last comment cracked me up
That too is a sentiment I fully understand. A few years back I proudly wore the classic T-shirt "I survived the Catholic School System"
posted by
gomedome
on February 1, 2006 at 8:51 PM
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CunningLinguist
Yes, I segregated them intentionally as I could not hate anyone enough to include them with Catholicism.
posted by
CrimsonCarouse
on February 1, 2006 at 8:29 PM
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Gome, you and Crimson made valid points...
Sometimes these symbolic rituals have the "placebo" effect on the faithful. As you know, holy water is a reminder of Baptism...the containers are usually at the entrance of the church and people dip their fingers and make the sign of the cross on their foreheads. They are symbolic gestures for Catholics. A note to Crimson: Catholics are Christians. People seem to isolate them from the other Christian denominations.
Regards, Melody
posted by
CunningLinguist
on February 1, 2006 at 8:07 PM
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CrimsonCarouse - that's the ultimate point
If people were capable of stepping back and examining exactly why all of the alleged manifestations have occurred, it becomes obvious that all are simply a matter of human response to stimula. Wishful thinking plays a big role in overlooking the facts of this human response. The affirmation of belief and resultant strengthening of faith from this desire for it to be so, somehow translates into self justification for any attrocious action performed on behalf of the imaginary creator that humans have convinced themselves actually exists. They are not even happy to let it stop with creating a delusion for themselves. Now they must involve others in the delusion and it even gets worse still. In some parts of the world, people derive a sense of entitlement from being the most deluded and are happy to act against others based on this delusion.
posted by
gomedome
on February 1, 2006 at 6:24 PM
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Excellent article
I think about this quite often. A perfect example is the book of Exodus from the bible (even has a cool name). There isn't much difference at all gomedome except for one thing, Christians and Catholics do it in the name of God. That's the fine print disclaimer that always makes it o.k. to do something!
posted by
CrimsonCarouse
on February 1, 2006 at 5:58 PM
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Gome, this is an interesting method of "abra-cadabra."
As to chicken or egg scenario, I don't know what came first but I do know it's better to have a hen tomorrow than an egg today. Melody
posted by
CunningLinguist
on February 1, 2006 at 5:57 PM
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elysiafields - I'm laughing because that is exactly what I just finished
eating.
posted by
gomedome
on February 1, 2006 at 4:06 PM
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ethnic dishes
Spaghetti and meat sauce sounds pretty good to me right now - oilive oil and a nice chianti (hold the fava beans, and human liver please)...
Ok, so over all your blog inspires me to leave this message: Language is law. Hopefully this will make some sort of sene to you - if not, I'll try to explain further.
posted by
astromuffy
on February 1, 2006 at 4:02 PM
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its the "common uncommon" things -- each is valuable in its own right -- and they have been staples for eons.
at least 15,000 years.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 1, 2006 at 2:51 PM
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elysiafields -- how can olive oil make you hungry?
Unless it brings to mind some of those exotic ethnic dishes . . . okay, now I'm hungry as well.
posted by
gomedome
on February 1, 2006 at 1:34 PM
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Xeno-x - ever notice that the things used for combating evil spirits
are things that were all common commodities of ancient man? Salt, garlic, olive oil, or even processed commodities such as holy water (can you use salt water as holy water?) but nowhere to be found are any elements that have been discovered in the last 200 years. Is this just a coincedence?
posted by
gomedome
on February 1, 2006 at 1:32 PM
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olive oil?
You made me hungry, and now I can't even finish reading the blog. I have to go eat something, but I'll be back in a few hours with my two cents worth.
Voodoo - witchcraft - paranoid fantasies - magical thinking - ok later.
posted by
astromuffy
on February 1, 2006 at 12:52 PM
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SALT
is a universal agent in the cleansing and keeping at bay of evil spirits.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 1, 2006 at 12:30 PM
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