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Blagging,
On the road to finding truth you must be exposed to the "real" facts! Are you not aware that there were "Jews" practicing Judism in Iraq before the invasion? Your statement is simply an uninformed lie!
posted by
Glennb
on January 4, 2006 at 3:43 PM
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i disagree with your implication that religious freedom is denied to religions other thatn Judaism in Israel. There are many many people practising many religions happily in Israel with much more religious freedom that any other country in the middle east.
as far as validating the views of the Iranian President, I find that offensive and no longer wish to continue this conversation.
posted by
blagging
on January 4, 2006 at 12:02 PM
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Blagging,
I am not going to engage in a debate on whether Judism is a Race of Peoples or a Religious Belief! And by the way the establishing a Jewish State in Palestine was a part of the "Final Solution" under Nazism! Religions are free to be practiced in every Nation on the Planet but Israel! Zionism is Racism! The history of the People that follow Judism is not new and known to all! It is the present day insistance on a so called "Jewish" State that is offensive to most sane People of the Planet.
Iran's Position seem most valid!
posted by
Glennb
on January 4, 2006 at 10:56 AM
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glenn...
Firstly, I have no reason to question my Zionism.
Secondly, Jews need their own 'accommodation' precisely because of what has happened in every country they have previously resided in.
Thirdly, and this is really a case of self-determination, there is a debate regarding whether Judaism constitutes a religion or a race. The Jewish people trace their ancestry back to the tribe of Judah, a group who inhabited the land of Judea (modern Israel). In which case they are a nation, a race of people who were exiled from their homeland and have every right to return. This is extremely different to say Christianity, the belief in the existence of Jesus and the following of his teachings. Christianity is not a race, yet there are many Christian countries around the world.
Fourthly, The legitimacy of a Jewish state is neither for you, me, or the President of Iran to decide. It was decided by the United Nations on the 29th November 1947 as part of Resolution 181. No other country in the world has been created as a result of a United Nations resolution, so if we are looking at 'facts' then Israel is the most legitimate country in the world.
posted by
blagging
on January 4, 2006 at 9:45 AM
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Blagging,
You fail to see the "real" facts! Ask yourself are you a Zionist? And what makes the Jewish Religion so special that the Planet should have special accomodations that Jews may Practice their Religion? The President of Iran has opened a debate that must be continued, because after the "oil" is depleted nobody will give a hoot!
posted by
Glennb
on January 4, 2006 at 9:32 AM
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I'm not American so i don't know much about all of your politicains
and their various policies, but I do know a lot about Israel. I am a proud Jew and Zionist with no agenda other than ensuring the existence of a safe Jewish state where Jews are protected from the kind of persecution we have endured for centuries. For those who don't know, what the President of Iran actually said was that Israel should be 'wiped off the map'. He later claimed that the Holocaust was a myth. Call me crazy, but I don't view that as an educated and rational argument against the legitimacy of the State of Israel.
posted by
blagging
on January 4, 2006 at 5:23 AM
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There are People,
who peddle their dignity cheap! Makes the liberation struggle appear invalid.
posted by
Glennb
on January 3, 2006 at 10:18 PM
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Trevor Cunnington,
Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Clearance Thomas, Armstrong Williams, Stanley Crouch, Roy Innis, ... need I go on? The real burden falls to the voiceless and the meek! Radical Talkers are often paraded before us as Thinkers! The talkers usually have zero solutions!
posted by
Glennb
on January 3, 2006 at 10:09 PM
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Jack Flash,
It is a meanlingless, but very powerful tool of the Colonialist Doctrine! Strange contradiction at it's worst!
posted by
Glennb
on January 3, 2006 at 10:04 PM
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I don't want to distance myself
from righteous browns like Malcolm X or Nelson Mandela, however, I do want to distance myself from the egregious Condaleeza Rice! Divide and Conquer tactics aside, I'm not ready to support her in the least. You're dead-on when you say that the Iraq war has everything to do with colonialism.
posted by
Trevor_Cunnington
on January 3, 2006 at 8:42 PM
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GB,
Be sure to keep everyone straight on the races. After all, how could we properly discriminate if we didn't keep everyone classified into meaningless categories?
posted by
Jack_Flash
on January 3, 2006 at 7:53 PM
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Mongeaux,
Agree! Thank you for the clarification! But it is more the European interpretation of the Race "divide" that affects or effects doctrine! It is clear that every man on the Planet wants to distance himself from the African!
posted by
Glennb
on January 3, 2006 at 7:52 PM
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Glennb
Iranians are Persians. While of mixed race they are essentially Aryan (anthropology jargon) and dont really fit well into the "Brown Peoples" category, as they would undoubtedly tell you if you asked one. It's actually a pretty big deal with them.
Just saying.
posted by
Mongeaux
on January 3, 2006 at 7:43 PM
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DrJpt,
There is no need to be "very" informed here! As you will note as you continue to write and read. Thank you for the visit!
posted by
Glennb
on January 3, 2006 at 7:38 PM
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I Must Admit
I do not know many facts on the issues addressed and need to become better informed. Nice post and thanks for sharing.
posted by
Dr_JPT
on January 3, 2006 at 7:35 PM
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