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yeah damon
i don' t why i thought it said "guitar" when right there on the guitar it says "machine".
maybe i wanted it not to be m uddied for the readers -- but they can check the link I have.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 28, 2005 at 11:56 AM
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And This...
...of course adds to the numerous laws Bush has broken in his Iraq adventures.
(And before you ask, Corbin, check my latest post in STOP THE WARS - it's all there).
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PS - nice one on the name-change, Xeno!
posted by
DamonLeigh
on December 27, 2005 at 7:24 AM
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that's the reason for amendments
to change and update the constitution.
back to illegal search and seizure -- the constitution was written before new technologies made fuzzy where a person's "home", etc. begins, you might say. --
The new technologies ought to be included now in these protections.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 27, 2005 at 7:07 AM
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Will the practise of democracy every match the theory?
That's the million dollar question. The answer I think is no, because circumstances change. While I do not agree with wiretapping private citizens, I think chaining yourself to a literal reading of a 200 and some odd year old document is troublesome and unproductive.
posted by
Trevor_Cunnington
on December 26, 2005 at 7:01 AM
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As far as i can see from afar the legal technacalities dont really matter what is at issue is the moral case. To me it seems politicians the world over see the solution to the problems of terrorism as increaseing state power when things have not slipped through the net due to the state not having enough power but bad practice in existing intelligence services.
posted by
Leafonariver
on December 25, 2005 at 3:00 PM
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it is quoting one of his supporters
in there are a couple of statements saying what he is doing is illegal.
and it is.
If anyone supports this line of reasoning, then we might just as well throw out our system of government because all the checks and balances have been thrown out the window.
The President of the United States, by this line of reasoning, can do any damn thing he wants to do -- and I thought that's what our Revolution was fought to end.
You are basically supporting a dictatorship.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 23, 2005 at 7:15 AM
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Xeno...
Did you read your own linked story????
It is listing the reason why he can do it.......
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on December 23, 2005 at 5:27 AM
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this story kills the President's escuses
explains that the President is breaking the law.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 22, 2005 at 4:49 PM
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however
he must submit these to their approval after 72 hours.
and if that is indeed true, then the entire constitution has j ust been thrown out the window.
we are not safe in our homes.
if you like that, then you can go ahead and live in fear that yours might be the next phone wiretapped.
but if this in indeed so that the courts allow the president unfettered ability to wiretap any U.s. citgizen at any time without warrant or any protectin, then, sir, we have a country that has departed tremendously from the vision of its fourding fathers and, as Jefferson indicated, a revolution is in order to restore our country to the ideals of its foundging fathers.
long live the Second Amendment.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 22, 2005 at 10:50 AM
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Xeno......sorry to pop your bubble.....
From today's Washington Times:
More recently, the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court -- the secretive judicial system that handles classified intelligence cases -- wrote in a declassified opinion that the court has long held "that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information."
Such warrantless searches have been at the center of a political fight in Washington after the New York Times reported Friday that the Bush administration had a program to intercept communications between al Qaeda suspects and persons in this country, a story whose publication coincided with the congressional debate over reauthorizing the USA Patriot Act.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on December 22, 2005 at 8:34 AM
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he has violated the constitution of the United States of America
that's all anybody needs to know.
I hear in his oath of office he swore to "upuhold and defend the Constiution of the United States of America"
looks like he's violatedhis oath, too.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 21, 2005 at 9:29 AM
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Hmmmmmm???
The Constitutution
that does not allow for illegal searches
OK....thats not an answer......
Let's try the next step, before long we're gonna have you walking on your own.........
What law regarding illegal searchs has the President broken?
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on December 21, 2005 at 7:58 AM
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The Constitutution
that does not allow for illegal searches
and the senate passed law that allows for wiretaps, but has to come before a court within 72 hours.
he is not complying with either of these.
He just as much as admits that he is breaking the law.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 21, 2005 at 7:53 AM
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This is so tiring.....
I try this one.....
Name the law that the President is breaking........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on December 21, 2005 at 7:47 AM
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