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JanesOpinion - the eldest leans towards the views held by her father

While the youngest is definately a believer and still accompanies her mother to church. Internally, or within our immediate family, their has not been one second of religious conflict .....which is surprising to some.

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 8:37 PM | link to this | reply

Gome, out of curiosity, now that your kids are adults or nearing adulthood (I would assume), may I be so bold to ask if they've chosen a religion?  Have they sided with dear old mum or dear old dad?

posted by JanesOpinion on December 3, 2005 at 8:15 PM | link to this | reply

Gome...
Ninja Nun School! LOL

posted by RckyMtnActivist on December 3, 2005 at 10:46 AM | link to this | reply

RckyMtnActivist -- that's one thing I can vouch for - nuns have no sense of
humour. It is trained out of them at Ninja Nun school. That's where they learn the art of weilding the disciplinary wooden ruler. You know the one, that would be the ruler that they beat impertinent children with for asking questions such as you asked.  

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 10:30 AM | link to this | reply

Gubby - you inadvertantly depict the differences in generations and
educational settings. If I had of asked that question at the mission school, it would have meant a whap on the head with a wooden ruler by our nun teacher, Sister Neverhadaman.

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 10:25 AM | link to this | reply

jollyjeff - thanx -- but for me it was the only way

One cannot condemn the actions of past generations in passing their prejudices onto us and then turn around to do the same thing. I recognized that I carried an unhealthy disdain for organized Christian religions when my children were small, I feel fortunate that I also recognized it was entirely my problem and should not be passed along.

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 10:22 AM | link to this | reply

avant-garde - ultimately the proof is in how my children end up conducting
their lives. So far they are not the messed up individuals that some of my relatives children are. Even my totally biased perspective (because they are my children) can see that my kids are on the right track in life. I spared them the mind pollution of a redundant religion.

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 10:16 AM | link to this | reply

Your willingness to expose your kids
to other points of view is commendable.

posted by jollyjeff on December 3, 2005 at 10:11 AM | link to this | reply

brisbane_artist -- and your average rain coat is useless to stop it
Jesus juice comes in liquid and gaseous form...and can be released, sprayed or vented in any small enclosure. Preferably within earshot of those willing to spray some back but it does say right on the can it comes in, to make sure you use extra heavy doses within range of the non believer.

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 10:11 AM | link to this | reply

Talion -- your experience growing up is very unusual for those living in
North America. For anyone in our age group, born in the 1950's, it was routine to march them off to church while they were still whelping. It is not just a coincedence that you have such a balanced perspective on life today. You missed the mind polution that the rest of us suffered while growing up, I envy you for that. 

posted by gomedome on December 3, 2005 at 10:07 AM | link to this | reply

Gome...
Good luck with the family!  My family is all christian and I guess I am the black sheep.  They suspected something was up when I was six years old and got thrown out of Catholic Sunday school.  Why? Because I asked the nun, "Why do I have to say confession to a priest in order to receive communion?, when my friend who is Lutheran can confess her sins to God and not a priest?  Why can't we eliminate the middle man?" They have no sense of humor those nuns!  Great Post!!!

posted by RckyMtnActivist on December 3, 2005 at 5:14 AM | link to this | reply

In britain, they have a policy of religious neutrality in most schools and it's only politically correct to assume that your chosen faith is not the one and only. When I was a tiny kid, I think we were doing the story of noah's ark or something so that we could all play with cut-out animals, and I asked the teacher whether it was a true story: she said it might be. Then I asked her if there was any proof, and she said there wasn't any. But how could it be true then? She was kinda embarrassed and evaded the question.

So, in conclusion with this new concept, I spent all that day imagining possible histories of the world in the idea that it might be possible to come up with something real by throwing darts blindfolded, so to speak. Unlike most religious people, however, after a day it started to strike me as kinda stupid.

posted by Gubby on December 3, 2005 at 4:32 AM | link to this | reply

gomedome
I've had the same experiences. We attended a local church, so that the kids could attend a Sunday school. Wrong idea. I felt as if I were in shark infested waters.

Your kids must go to church. What about thier souls? I'm tired of this and I want my kids to believe in a God who does not need anything, but to allow them to experiene and discover without being browbeaten.

posted by avant-garde on December 3, 2005 at 3:04 AM | link to this | reply

Jesus Juice
Sraying with Jesus Juice sounds like fun?

posted by brisbane_artist on December 3, 2005 at 1:29 AM | link to this | reply

Jesus Juice
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posted by brisbane_artist on December 3, 2005 at 1:29 AM | link to this | reply

gomedome
My parents didn't force religion on me. Outside of weddings and funerals, I've only been to two religious services in my life. The first time was in the sixth grade. It was something of a "field trip." My teacher wanted to show off a group of her best students. It was a pentacostal church, with people jumping and shouting and falling on the floor. I saw such things on TV, but didn't think people really did it. The second time, I was a freshman in college. I went to a Catholic university in New Orleans and as part of the freshman's introduction to campus life razzmatazz, they made all of us attend mass. I was bored out of my skull and would've fallen asleep had the priest not repeatedly asked everyone to stand up and sit down. My lack of experience with any church harbored no contempt for religion, but it developed no undying love for it either. It allowed me to have a take it or leave it approach. I chose the latter.   

posted by Talion on December 2, 2005 at 11:24 PM | link to this | reply