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Hi there! Please call me Melody (I'm a friend of Cunninglinguist)
I am glad you were able to see my point: Religion is political - Believers are dreamers...
Perhaps one day we'll find the Rainbow connection, the Religious, the Dreamers and You(me)..
(hallelujah)(hare krishna)(krishna krishna)(gurur brahma)(parabrahma)(hare hare)
posted by
CunningLinguist
on December 1, 2005 at 5:42 AM
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CunningLinguist -- yeah, religious fanatics come in every stripe and colour
but I do see your point in the issue being one also of political ideological alignment. Let us not forget as well, that none of the religious groups you mention hold significant political clout in our societies, at least nothing close to the Christian right. We'll fix Canada first, then maybe the USA and then on to Iran.
posted by
gomedome
on November 30, 2005 at 5:45 PM
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Hi there!
According to an article I read in Queer Day Magazine, Muslims were just as actively against gay marriages as Christian groups. The Union of Orthodox Jewish adamantly rejects civil and same-sex marriages. I think the battle for gay rights mainly is between liberal and conservative groups. There are some religious people that are liberal thinkers and some atheist conservatives that will play devil's advocate to human rights and promote bigotry for the sake of their conservative supremacy. I, for one, being a liberal believer endorse the civil union and recognition of same-sex marriages. I tip my hat to the Canadian people and its government for allowing Bullwinkle and Rocky to unite in matrimony. No mosque, temple, church or synagogue can come between true love and its inalienable rights.
Best personal regards, Melody
posted by
CunningLinguist
on November 30, 2005 at 5:19 PM
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MandaLee -- the level of disrespect is all in the eyes of the beholder
and I am not one to show up at a cannon fight with a peashooter. In other words, if the day ever comes when non believers such as myself are not routinely disparaged and ostracized by a believing majority, I will be happy to temper my stance.....but I'm not holding my breath for that day to come.
posted by
gomedome
on November 30, 2005 at 8:00 AM
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Gomedome, Have you ever tried disagreeing with Christianity in
a more respectful way?
I disagree with your views, but am never disrespectful of you as a person.
posted by
Amanda__
on November 30, 2005 at 7:44 AM
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kooka_lives -- you've hit on something in your comment
The way the amendment to our Charter of Rights and Freedoms is written clearly states that no religious institution can be forced to perform a marriage that is outside of their beliefs. The brush, in this case paints everyone but as you are suggesting, these people are not about equality. They are simply about imposing their views on everyone else, which is the single biggest reason that they do not see the connection you describe between government and religious freedoms.
posted by
gomedome
on November 30, 2005 at 7:26 AM
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As I pointed out in a post recently
If homosexual marriages are being protested through religious ideas, then that would mean that any laws regulating them would there by by the government going and taking control of a religious belief. So the 'Bible thumpers' are asking for the government to tell the church what they are and are not allowed to do. BAsically weaken the ideas of religious freedom.
You would think that they would see the reasoning here and understand that it is actually in their best interests to get the government to not be involved in such things, but instead leave it up to the individual churches to decided if they wish to perform and acknowledge homosexual marriages. It should not concern them at all if the government does or not. Now it would make more sense for Big Business to oppose it through pushing for laws, btu Big Business has been hiding away on the issue. Although it would not surprise me if some companies were actually funding the religious protesters, but not wanting their name linked ot it all since they would not want risk bad public opinion.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 30, 2005 at 7:17 AM
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