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opdd about these Christians
they don't want to hear the other side
and yet they want to make certain their side is heard, no matter how invalid.
they are wanting to besiege the infidels.
is anybody selling hot oil to pour off the city walls?

posted by Xeno-x on November 28, 2005 at 8:53 AM | link to this | reply

oops..
didn't mean to enter this twice..once was enough.

posted by RckyMtnActivist on November 28, 2005 at 5:41 AM | link to this | reply

Gome...
Oh so typical of those christians....I say where are the lions??? LOL

posted by RckyMtnActivist on November 28, 2005 at 5:40 AM | link to this | reply

Gome...
Oh so typical of those christians....I say where are the lions??? LOL

posted by RckyMtnActivist on November 28, 2005 at 5:40 AM | link to this | reply

Vane - sadly, incedents such as this are just the tip of the iceberg
There is a growing movement to re-write and discredit a lot of what science has discovered simply to reconcile reality with Genesis.

posted by gomedome on November 27, 2005 at 7:38 PM | link to this | reply

hahaha, there are some interesting whackos out there, and many of them use religion to spread their nonsense. I feel for those children, because you're definitely right that nonsense leaves lasting scars.

posted by Vanidad on November 27, 2005 at 7:14 PM | link to this | reply

Gome, thanks for setting the record straight.  I appreciate the info!

posted by JanesOpinion on November 27, 2005 at 7:05 PM | link to this | reply

JanesOpinion - in this particular case the exact method of dating was not

covered in great detail. As most sizeable museums of natural history with the corresponding budget to do so will use a variety of dating methods, it is safe to assume that the big three were used in; "radiocarbon dating" "obsidian hydration" and "chronological corroboration". Yes there have been a few times in recent history when radiocarbon dating has outright embarrassed itself, but understand why this is so. The age reference parameters of carbon content, have been present in the subject material, either artificially induced or as an extremely rare random occurance. Carbon is the key element in this measurement, materials that contain high carbon such as petrified charcoal from pre-histoic campfires etc., are routinely dated very accurately. Accuracy of dating diminishes with the subject material's lack of carbon content but no credible archeologist relies entriely on one dating method.

Also understand that the versions of these stories you are hearing on a regular basis are pure propaganda. Zeroing in on a few obscure failures of a dating method without telling the entire story is nothing more than a smokescreen to further an agenda.

posted by gomedome on November 27, 2005 at 12:24 PM | link to this | reply

I'm glad you were "veggying" out in front of the TV rather than "chippy-ing" out or "M&My-ing" or "pretzely-ing" out.  Oops, errr, I guess I missed the point of your diatribe. 

But regarding the dating of artifacts, how accurate is carbon dating? (which I would assume is what they used to determine the 80,000 year old artifact) I've heard varying accounts as to its accuracy, particularly as some have tested items from today's world only to be told they're thousands of years old.  Any thoughts?

posted by JanesOpinion on November 27, 2005 at 11:51 AM | link to this | reply

mikebrown - lately it's been a little worse
When young people come at you with a sparkly clean newly minted brainwashing, it is understandable. Lately however, several middle aged people, that should know better, have shown me just how hopeless people are in terms of wanting to make their fabricated beliefs real.  These are people in my age group who make me ask how an individual can come to the same level of reasoning as that of a 20 year old at 50 or older? Are they retarded? In a very real sense, yes they are retarded. Socially and developmentally, but this would not be a problem if they could just keep their mindless shit to themselves.

posted by gomedome on November 27, 2005 at 11:41 AM | link to this | reply

i tire of it, too, man.
im surprised youve been able to tolerate the antagonism directed toward you (however irrational) for so long.

posted by mikebrown on November 27, 2005 at 10:50 AM | link to this | reply