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Corbin
So you are claiming that all the military advisor are liars then? That Bush did listen to them and not rush into it all foolish with nothing planned out right or any concept of how to get out of Iraq?
Sorry, but it is FACT not opinion that Bush did not listen to his military advisors before he went into Iraq.
It is FACT not opinion that Iraq was stabilized before we invaded and that the Middle East itself has become much less stabilized since we invaded Iraq.
Those are FACTS, proven FACTS, not opinion at all. Just because they do not agree with what you wish the world was like does not change what they are.
Now I will admit that is still is not fact that Bush is the worst president ever, but it should be since it is true, but due to the nature of such a statement it must always remain as opinion, no matter how true it might be.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 19, 2005 at 6:59 PM
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Kooka
Do you not understand opinion vs. facts?
I understand it very well...when I see you put forth a fact....I'll be quick to point it out.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 19, 2005 at 7:52 AM
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Corbin
All but my last statement were facts, not opinion. Unless you are claiming Bush did listen to his advisors, who then are all a bunch of liars for saying he did not and this was before he went into Iraq and really screwed it all up. I can see no reaosn for them to make up such lies.
Do you not understand opinion vs. facts? Maybe that is why you defend Bush so much. You just do not understand what facts are and so the BS that comes out of Bush's mouth is believable to you.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 18, 2005 at 5:36 PM
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And we still get.....
opinions....without colaboration. Also know as spin..........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 18, 2005 at 1:53 PM
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Corbin
You mean like the fact that Bush did not listen to his military advisors? That he instead pushed their planning aside and told them to do the invasion of Iraq they way he wanted to instead of taking time to plan it out and do it right? That has been a well documented FACT that is always ignored by conservative Bush ass kissers.
There is the fact that the democrat support a planned war, where Bush worked with military advisors and did the invasion of Iraq right from the get go, instead of screwing it all up because he was worried that his support would not last long. At no point have they claimed otherwise. what Bush did was not what he was supported to do.
Of course there is the fact that Iraq is in much worse shape right now than it was before we invaded. Under Sadam there was stability, right now there is none at all.
It is fact that in order to go after Iraq we had to back up on the war on terror and all the real terrorist a great chance to get free and have time to reorganize. After all, where is Bin Laden? Sure we got Sadam, who was not attacking us at that point and really could have waited, but Bin Laden is still free as can be and able to plan. There was no logic in not taking care of him before we moved on to Iraq. After all only the most pathetic of leaders would starting fighting on a second front if it was not needed, and in this case it was clearly not needed.
I always love it when some ignorant conservative brings up the Boy Scouts. I am an Eagle Scout myself, and right now I have some serious issue with the Boy Scouts, because they are not following their own ideas with their current policies. One would have to have been active in the group for a good period of time to truly be able to know this. But you do not care, all liberals are hippies in your mind.
No, I deal with facts. Conservatives seem to ignore them.
Oh and it is now a fact, even if you do not like it at all, that Clinton did a much better job as president than Bush. Sure Clinton did not do much and for the most part had an unimpressive term, but since Bush has screwed up like no other, Clinton looks good by comparison and that most likely is a huge factor is why so many conservatives are in such a state of denial about Bush and his piss poor leadership.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 18, 2005 at 9:31 AM
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kooka_lives
Facts? Where's the facts.......where's the data....you moan about what "you" don't like.......and that's an opinion.
If you're basing it on facts.....to paraphrase Jerry MaGuire...."Show me the facts!"
Your comments are a parroting of countless leftist blogs on the web....it's like listening to you sitting around a campfire singing "Kumbaya".
Oh, wait, forget the campfire, you probably think the Boy Scouts are a Fascist group and burning the wood contributes to global warming. Perhaps it would be better to visualize you guys sitting around your lava light........The answer is blowing in the wind.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 18, 2005 at 8:49 AM
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Corbin
So instead I should be more like the conservative and ignore facts completely and pretend that Bush is even remotely competent to run the country? I could never lie to myself like that. This is a guy who has failed time and time again and running businesses and had to get his father to bail him out. He is still showing his lack of ability with ever act he takes.
But since conservative do not care about real solutions, I guess I can understand why facts scare them so much. For although some of what say may be opinion, it is all based on facts. Much more so than anything I hear coming from conservatives, who ignore the truth as much as they can.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 18, 2005 at 8:22 AM
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Thank you.....
for your "opinion".
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 18, 2005 at 7:00 AM
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Finally
It seems like all the people in the top ten at blogit news & politics are right wing.
"The whole Middle East is right now in a much more chaotic existence than it was before Bush pushed up to invade Iraq." ain't that the truth!
Clinton, despite speaking against the war now, was for a long time before Bush was ever elected in favour of invading Iraq and deposing Saddam.
posted by
Trevor_Cunnington
on November 17, 2005 at 5:05 PM
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good
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 17, 2005 at 12:25 PM
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Kooka
You are correct. All the misguided "thinking" of the Bushie supporters are
the result of them glued to the radio, listening to Rush Limbaugh. We call them, "Rush's Robots". Between Bible thumping and drinking moonshine, they have lost touch with reality.
posted by
Pooch116
on November 17, 2005 at 12:12 PM
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