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another yep to you
seems that when information comes through the educational system that is hard to digest, then people attempt to rearrange the information to suit their views, no matter how invalid; then, as we have seen lately (there have been religious conservatives taking over school boards and thrusting their agenda upon unsuspecting young minds) political forces will then exploit certain fears of certain vocal minorities to virtually force the educational system to eschew valid information in lieu of the emotionally charged invalid perceptions.
This is what is most dangerous.
An open society must not allow narrow paradigms to prevail.

posted by Xeno-x on October 31, 2005 at 9:55 AM | link to this | reply

Ariala -- actually you are agreeing with me, just differentiating specific
nuances (is zat how you spell differentiating?).....but anyways, the political arena subjegates the educational system to a great degree. Most sweeping changes to the education system are initiated in the political arena and far too infreuqently from within. I think we both agree that religion establishing itself within the political system is a bad idea but mostly I am speaking of far more subtle effects wrought on our societies. For example: we now have people graduating from high school that do not even know what a real scientific principle is, thanx to the blurring of these lines to further religious agenda. This is a dumbing down of sorts as it wasn't true just 10 years ago.  

posted by gomedome on October 29, 2005 at 9:49 AM | link to this | reply

Gome, I just wanted to comment on your comment to Xeno...I disagree
with that being dangerous...what I find dangerous is when they get into politics and try to control the population via the government.  This is where it affects a larger aspect of the population.  It gets into a "Roman Empire" mode at that point.

posted by Ariala on October 29, 2005 at 9:24 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - I can appreciate what you are saying and fully agree that we are
dealing with a minority group but the scary part is that they exist at all in the year 2005. College graduates taking the bible literally and believing that Satan is a real corporeal entity is something that shouldn't be. Education should eradicate ignorance and primitive thinking, not encourage it. 

posted by gomedome on October 29, 2005 at 9:16 AM | link to this | reply

gomey you
are north
you guys might be more easily influenced
the rest of the continent and south is pretty well firmly entrenched in another paradigm, a shrewd one that lets the people's prior religions thrive as part of the paradigm.
our religious fervor here (not mine) is really limited to a certain segment that speaks louder than the rest of us.
I too believe that this should be countered, mainly because they do not represent anywhere near a majority of the U.S. population, or even religious people or even Christians.
Their views are a tangent off of the mainstream and should be recognized as such.

posted by Xeno-x on October 29, 2005 at 9:05 AM | link to this | reply

clearlyperceived - why taunt them? ---because I can

and it needs to be done. There is currently a fundamentalist revival taking place in continental USA. With the USA being the dominant culture on this continent, it's societal influence permeates into my country. I shudder when I imagine a world with exponentially more of these brainwashed simpering numbnuts running about. If I can cast just a bit of doubt into their obtuse certainty, then I feel there is a purpose to writing this blog.

posted by gomedome on October 29, 2005 at 8:26 AM | link to this | reply

TRUE THAT.
True that... religious and other people do condemn themselves by not being themselves. But that isn't to say that you are being yourself either, why taunt them? It's good to say what needs to be said and then leave it alone.

posted by clearlyperceived on October 29, 2005 at 7:09 AM | link to this | reply

I get it

but there is one slight problem in this post: "Christians have told me I am going to hell for being me."

if Christians have told you that specifically they are wrong. God does not condemn you for being " you". Matter of fact, God does not condemn anyone at all.

posted by calmcantey75 on October 28, 2005 at 9:46 PM | link to this | reply