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Xeno-x
I think he may be "hung" up on it
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on October 20, 2005 at 4:04 PM
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do we think that NOPEACE
has a problem with witches?
does he have a "stake" in seeing witchcraft and sorcery meet its demise?
does he have a "burning" desire to eradicate this evil?
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 20, 2005 at 2:46 PM
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NOPEACE
As to your comment about if I had read the Bible I know that God sends sorcerers and such to hell...
I have read the Bible, and I know what it says. I just say it's not correct, but then I don't believe in the Bible as being fact. Not most of it anyway.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on October 20, 2005 at 2:37 PM
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NOPEACE
I already know that is not going to happen, but just to humor you....
Comming face to face with a "God" as depicted in the Bible, I already decided when I changed paths, that it really doesn't matter, If God is all those things as depicted in the Bible, I may as well be in hell.
How can you justify...
A just God, who's discriminative?
A God that condones rape, murder, molestation, abuse, slavery, etc. etc. Because if the Bible were indeed factual, he does condone all these things, but then contradicts it by saying you're not supposed to do it.
I never said that I don't believe in your God, but my beliefs are much different from most others and complicated, I'll have to post on it some time.
Let me just say, that while you're God may be very real in existence and to those who believe in him, he's still not the truth as far as what will happen to you when you die.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on October 20, 2005 at 11:20 AM
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NOPEACE
I have already time and time agian answered that question to so many others.
Go read my post 'SO WHAT IS THE MEASURE OF A MAN IN THE EYES OF GOD?' in this blog. It was written Friday, October 7, 2005, so it is real easy to find.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 20, 2005 at 9:28 AM
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NOPEACE
So you admit that you took only one definition, instead of looking fro the one that fit best with the usage of the post. If you did such on purpose, then you basically were 'baring false witness' in an attempt to discredit my post and once more you show a lack of integrity. If you did such on accident, then you show a level of ignorance to the understanding of the english language and so one would have to look at all that you say as if it is said from ignorance, since you do not understand the english language very well.
You tried to counter my idea by presenting a meaning that was obviously not the meaning of the word as I was using it. You need not put all the meanings down, just the one that fits best with the word as it was used in the post. I learned that rule back in grade school.
I do not put up with someone using such obvious deceit in debating with me, so in the future please don't try to to lie to me. I do not play those games.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 20, 2005 at 9:24 AM
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Kooka, Sunnybeach
You both say that their is no God right. If you die, and there is a God, what would you say to him on the day of judgement?
Not trying to get into a debate, just would like to know for my own knowledge.
posted by
NOPEACE
on October 20, 2005 at 5:56 AM
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Kooka,
There are several definitions of miracles as well, I took the first for each one instead of filling your blog with the entire dictionary. Sunnybeach if you have in deed read the bible you would see that God will send those who practice magic and sorcery to hell. As mentioned in Romans, they have no place in the kingdom of God. Man himself has no supernatural power, whenever man performs magic on the supernatural level, it is not of their own regard but by the power of Satan which you all refuse to believe that he does in fact exist.
posted by
NOPEACE
on October 20, 2005 at 5:54 AM
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If we're going to use Webster's....
We'd have to assume that God will condemn everyone to hell for perfoming magic tricks? That would be pretty low even for God.
Miracles/magic magic/miracles....they're all the same thing. And all come from the same source.
No, YOU wouldn't tell your kids to not play with matches, then go lay out matches in front of them, but you're missing the point, that God is sadistic.
If he's all powerful, he has the power to remove magic and only allow miracles, but he wants people to engage in things that he says he doesn't want them to....so he can punish them.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on October 19, 2005 at 7:06 PM
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NOPEACE
That was a weak, weak attempt to discredit me. You find one definition of magic and use that, even though everyone knows that there are many, many other definitions for it. Would you rather use the sorcery then? One set of meanings does not prove your point at all.
You know I am not talking about the slight of hand kind of magic here. I am guessing you are educated, so unless you wish to show yourself to be ignorant, you might wish to learn the other meanings of the usage of the word magic.
You comment did nothing to go against my point here. Most everyone else is not going to have a problem understanding what I meant when I used the word magic here. My two year old would understand it was in reference to sorcery and such, not slight of hand. if you wish to prove me wrong, you'll have to do better than that.
It is real easy to compare the two things if you use the right definitions of them. Miracles are the same as magic or sorcery. I have yet to see anything to prove otherwise.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 19, 2005 at 4:30 PM
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Kooka,
Thats a ridiculous comparison if i ever heard one which can easily be refuted just by using websters dictionary.
Websters Define Miracle: "An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God"
Webster Define Magic: "The exercise of sleight of hand or conjuring for entertainment"
BIG BIG DIFFERENCE
Come on now i would expect a much more challenging argument from you Kooka.
posted by
NOPEACE
on October 19, 2005 at 4:10 PM
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It's all Quantum Physics...God, the devil and people can tap in and
manipulate it.
posted by
Ariala
on October 19, 2005 at 12:21 PM
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