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Miaella
So, now I will be consumed with guilt......but I felt compelled to write that because most of the comments seemed to be along the lines that it was okay to do what you did, and I honestly didn't think it was....but it just really isn't my nature to hurt anyone's feelings...but, if you can dish it out, I'm sure you can take it....still, I'll be racked with guilt now....
sigh... because I know you weren't purposely mean....if you'd been mean on purpose, it wouldn't bother me at all to unload on you....but you're so sweet....usually.....
sigh...
posted by
Krisles
on October 16, 2005 at 9:03 PM
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Miaella
I think that was very rude and thoughtless of you. There, I just said what I really think. Now, I normally would never say something that cold that bluntly....because I think it's rude and thoughtless; but, since you think it's okay to just blurt opinions out about something so personal - like someone's work, or maybe something someone did - because they are your opinion, even if it may very well hurt someone's feelings, because,of course, you don't mean to hurt their feelings...you've simply got that opinion...then I figure it's okay to do that with you. Seriously, my mother tends to do things like that now, as she is getting older and doesn't think before she speaks, kind of reverting to childhood...and she says the same thing, "it's just my opinion"....and I say "words hurt". Your friend was excited about his sales...that was the thing to remember and focus on....just my opinion. And, what people spend money on is a very personal thing.....you sure are being judgemental! I look at a lot of art and prints...$125 is not that much for a print from what I see all the time....if a person likes it, they like it....people pay that for an article of clothing that will be discarded long before the art will be. I hope you will learn that your opinion may not be as important at the moment as someone's feelings....but, I think you're a wonderful person anyway. OK....I'll get out of my parent voice now.
posted by
Krisles
on October 16, 2005 at 8:55 PM
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MiaElla, I would never prescribe that work should only go to people who can pay the big bucks - far from it - but there is no shame in earning money from it. This is the kind of thing which should not be treated like a commodity with a set price. It depends on the times and the decisions of the buyer and seller. The price does not determine the level of appreciation. On the other hand artists have to eat and pay bills just like anyone who might hang their work on the wall. Perhaps this sale of prints will be what enables your friend able to produce new work.
There are many ways of sharing art too. For several years an artist friend who was very transient loaned us a valuable picture he owned so that we had the pleasure of it and it was kept safe.
posted by
Azur
on October 16, 2005 at 3:34 PM
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MayB
I'm a painter. I couldn't imagine ever charging anyone that much money. The canvas and the paint and time doesn't come to nearly that much...especially if you turn it into a print....but that's because I give my stuff away...and maybe that doesn't make me a real artist, but sometimes I just enjoy the fact that someone has my art on their wall and it makes them smile. I paint and write because I love it...money is nice....but I'd rather have someone be able to enjoy my art that wouldn't otherwise be able too because they don't have the money. The legacy is in what you create, not what you earn. Maybe I'm just stupid and will work hard all my life, and he will get ahead.....maybe I'm not much of a survivor at all...
posted by
MiaElla
on October 16, 2005 at 7:39 AM
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I would say good luck to your friend. Good to see an artist earning because if he is a typical artist he will have his lean times. I also think that it doesn't matter if he's not Kandinsky - the prints clearly appeal to some people. Having read the comments, I see that I'll be out of sync with most people here. People expect to pay nothing for art and take no account of what goes into it. Usually artists are not paid anything like a sum which represents the time spent both in producing the work and getting to the level of skill to produce the piece. It is exactly the same difference as people expecting to pay nothing or next to it to writers.
posted by
Azur
on October 15, 2005 at 8:46 PM
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MIaella, fools and there money soon part. I would never never never pay
that much for a print. But I'd happily drop money on other stuff that makes other people think I'm crazy.
BTW - check out my Iraqi painting I just got framed...the link to the pic is a couple of posts back in my blog.
posted by
FreeManWalking
on October 14, 2005 at 7:15 AM
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I keep telling my mom...
to mark her art UP more!!! She's TOO inexpensive! Will you come here and tell her how ridiculous she's being??? T H A N K S! :-) ~LB~ xo
posted by
Anony_Miss
on October 13, 2005 at 9:02 AM
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I used to be like this ...
one friend bought a dodge neon several years ago, her first car, she was so proud, and off the top of my head I recited the consimer reports article which said the vehicle was a POS. She was crushed. I now keep my yap shut.
posted by
fwmystic
on October 13, 2005 at 5:16 AM
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Mia,
I don't think it's bad to tell people how you feel. Some can accept it, others won't. I pity the latter sort!
posted by
Nickie-Fleming
on October 12, 2005 at 2:08 PM
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I'd think they were crazy too....
But I'd tell him that I meant no offense to his work.
posted by
word.smith
on October 12, 2005 at 1:56 PM
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LOL, well, I guess you're not buying a print?
posted by
Ariala
on October 12, 2005 at 11:31 AM
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Mia
I love the big mouths in my life, my husband the WORST, because I can always rely on them for an honest answer. I NEVER go out in a bad outfit with my husband around.
posted by
MercurialGem
on October 12, 2005 at 9:56 AM
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Good thing he didn't listen to you Mia!
;)
posted by
ginnieb
on October 12, 2005 at 9:03 AM
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jojostar
Exactly! I wasn't trying to be mean to my friend, I'm so happy for him...it was more of a reflection on who's buying these prints at such a price....lol....I paint...and my stuff doesn't sell at all...haha...and if it did...it would probably be for 10 dollars....=P
posted by
MiaElla
on October 12, 2005 at 8:00 AM
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Mia
That does seem like an awfully expensive print. I'm amazed that they are selling! I'm thinking I need to start painting.
posted by
jojostar
on October 12, 2005 at 7:57 AM
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CesiumClockWatcher
I'm glad he's selling his prints....I just couldn't believe for how much....but I wasn't telling him so he'd change the prices....it's just unbelievable to me that someone would pay that much....it really had nothing to do with him or his artwork. He's a great guy....and his art is very good.
posted by
MiaElla
on October 12, 2005 at 7:51 AM
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Mia
Evil isn't being blunt. Evil is thinking too much of what you tell people and getting angry with them if they don't follow it. You just had an opinion and shared it with someone. If after seeing that he was going ahead with his show you called him obstinate for not going along with what you said and/or said he needed to see a therapist about it, then I'd be thinking the "E" word.
How many Kandinsky prints are out there? Are these signed and numbered or mass market? I have some signed and numbered prints and some mass market ones. Your friend may run off 500 copies or maybe 1000 and then that's it.
Restaurants are a good place to express your remorse, btw.
posted by
AlienInsomniac
on October 12, 2005 at 7:44 AM
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lovelyladymonk
From one big mouth to another ...thanks.
and God Bless you as well.
posted by
MiaElla
on October 12, 2005 at 7:26 AM
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Mia,
While your friend may feel you handled the situation improperly, I can see your point. There's no way on earth I'd ever pay an artist I didn't know that much for one of their paintings...Especially if it wasn't framed.
You're not evil...You simply tell things as they are. Sometimes that's a good thing, and sometimes it isn't. That doesn't make you a bad or evil person. It's good of you to realise that perhaps you were wrong and that you're willing to apologise. I'm sure your friend will forgive you.
As for having a big mouth, you're not the only one....So do I!!!!....
By the way, the letter is on it's way!! In the meantime, much 
to you. God bless.
posted by
lovelyladymonk
on October 12, 2005 at 7:24 AM
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