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Xeno-x -- you hit on another important point
So many people trot out the King James Version while insisting it is the one true version. How or by whom did that ever come to be? What makes the KJV official? It really is nothing more than just another distortion of the underlying work.
posted by
gomedome
on October 8, 2005 at 10:17 AM
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let's try another passage
God should have struck down the King James translators, don't you think?
I keep repeating this instance, but it bears repeating.
IN Matthew, when the women were approaching the tomb, KJV renders the time of day as "when the sun was RISING", to be compatible with the Easter Sunday sunrise tradition; however, when one refers to a Greek Interlinear, such as Berry's, the passages is "when the sun was SETTING".
Why did God allow, you think, the 16th Century Anglicans to change the rendering to fit the tradition of the Church?
This is certainly a change.
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 8, 2005 at 10:10 AM
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mysteria -- that's exactly how I feel about it...it's a mixture of pity for
them and fear of what they are capable of. Yet they keep coming, our North American societies are producing college graduates that believe that Satan is a corporeal being and that a conscious invisible entity watches over their little lives......it's scary.....Loved the picture. LOL
posted by
gomedome
on October 7, 2005 at 3:25 PM
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GomeDome
It amazes me that there are those with minds that would allow their mouths to cite the bible as an undesputible truth and or reference source.
Whenever I hear, "Well, its says so in the bible", My brain refuses the input and a self protective mechanism kicks in and the next thing I know, I've vanished.
Good post..
Here's a "Devil Tomato" for you! LoL
posted by
mysteria
on October 7, 2005 at 2:48 PM
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Marshallengraved -- how have you been?
I'm doing fine actually thanx. No end of fun winding them up and watching them spin but as you can see, some of them are already spun.
posted by
gomedome
on October 7, 2005 at 1:36 PM
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NOPEACE - If they mean the same thing to you then I would suggest you
invest in some English lessons.
posted by
gomedome
on October 7, 2005 at 1:34 PM
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Just wanted...
to say hi...hope you're doing fine....
posted by
Marshallengraved
on October 7, 2005 at 1:27 PM
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I'd expect that type an answer from an atheist because it show's the true lack of understanding of God and his word. The meaning of God's word can't be changed no matter how many different bibles you interpret it from with different words. There's a million ways to say the same thing and thats what you showed in your statement. No matter what you say, there's no way that refute the fact that the quotes that YOU posted while they use different words still MEANS THE SAME THING.
God's word hasnt been changed from it's beginning to now. Sorry you cant prove that it has, nice try though.
posted by
NOPEACE
on October 7, 2005 at 1:21 PM
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NOPEACE -- again you happen upon a post that is beyond you
No one here was suggesting that you stop feeding your God delusion. Be my guest. What I was suggesting is that different words have been inserted in just these few passages that alter the meaning. For you to suggest that they all mean the same belies the fact that your faith has splintered off into over 30,000 different factions based entirely on people interpreting the bible differently. But don't let the truth ever get in the way of your delusion. There is an omnipotent sky daddy that loves only people like you...yeah right.
posted by
gomedome
on October 7, 2005 at 1:15 PM
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OH MY GOMEDOME found passages using different words in different versions of the bible!!! The bible must be false, God really doesnt exist. WOW, it you hadn't of pointed that out, I might have went on believing the bible and believing that there was a GOD.
OH, but the different passages that use different words mean the same thing. The meaning of the passage has not changed which means God's word has not changed, which again means that no matter how hard you try, you will never be able to publish a bible that takes God's meaning out of the words which means you cannot change gods word.
1. I'm going to McDonald's to get a Big Mac.
2. I'm going to get a Big Mac.
3. I'm getting a Big Mac.
4. Bring me back a Big Mac.
Different words, the meaning stays the same...I'm getting a Big Mac.
But I guess according to your logic since the words are different I'm getting a Whopper instead. That makes sense.
posted by
NOPEACE
on October 7, 2005 at 12:22 PM
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CB_Andrews -- of course you don't
It's those damn subtleties again, like when someone added the word "perversion" or the phrase "so rightly deserved" there is an agenda being outlined here. Also, the penalties vary from internal "within" to external as in a punishment levied by somene else, there is much more if one looks at it with an opne mind. This all assumes that the document these slightly different passages came from did not undergo the same slight variations and the one that came from and the one that came from. Really there is no way to be sure that anything in that book is other than someone's agenda.
And yes I am familiar with the 200 year old dispensationalism movement. Not overly familiar with what you are referring to as "laws"....not much interested to be honest. They all become the same to me. They can sit around waiting for Jesus to come back all they want but if they insist on combining a penchant for the wishful thinking of biblical prophecy with the belief in a doomsday or end times scenario... we had better keep an eye on them.
posted by
gomedome
on October 7, 2005 at 12:10 PM
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gomedome
these translations don't seem that different to me. If you watch a movie and it is dubbed or subtitled, do you trust that the dubs or subtitles are saying what the person on the screen is saying? Also, are you familiar with the laws of dispensationalism?
posted by
CB_Andrews
on October 7, 2005 at 11:44 AM
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