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too much heaven on their minds
basically we live in heaven and/or hell with each moment of living.
i've stated a few things on the subject . . . all knowledge (or semblance thereof) is imperfect.
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 29, 2005 at 10:41 AM
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Hahaha
posted by
Lensman
on September 28, 2005 at 7:16 PM
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Lensman - or worse, the virgins may still be alive while the
Infadel killing martyr is the only one at the party who's dead?
posted by
gomedome
on September 28, 2005 at 7:14 PM
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Gome
Any religion is a man-made institution, which is why I practice none, although for some bizarre reason I still refer to myself as Catholic. I have no clue what will happen after I die, but I believe that anything's possible, so I choose to err on the side of caution and conduct myself accordingly. As for the 72 virgins promised to every Muslim who martyrs himself by murdering infidels, if there is indeed an afterlife, it seems the joke may be on them. I recently heard that there is a word in Arabic, meaning "virgin" which is often easily confused with the Arabic word for "raisin." Those 72 virgins may turn out either to be a handful of raisins or a bevy of extremely wrinkled old crones.
posted by
Lensman
on September 28, 2005 at 7:11 PM
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benzinha --- you'll probably end up in the waiting room that the dogans
(Catholics) have constructed. They call it purgatory. If a person has lived a life as a heathen, saint, heathen saint, part heathen, part saint...as most of us have, they get to sit in the heaven waiting room called purgatory before they are ready to go to heaven. With a little luck your purgatory sentence will only be a few billion years.....but it beats the heck out of eternity.
posted by
gomedome
on September 28, 2005 at 7:10 PM
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gome, I think that I will get to heaven by being mostly good. The being a
little bad is the real problem tho', no? How bad, how often, how deep, which might undermine all of my years of being good. And do years of superficial good count when some people are running around being downright saintly, which makes me look like a slacker some days.
Maybe, I'll just take choice two, whatever that is and accept the outcome, whatever it may be. We are all unworthy as far as that goes...........and worthy, too.
posted by
benzinha
on September 28, 2005 at 6:51 PM
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thank you cantey
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 28, 2005 at 6:58 AM
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Gome
here is a link to tutorial video on how to get there
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=fp4.wmv
posted by
calmcantey75
on September 27, 2005 at 5:21 PM
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I'd like to add another link
only Ariala has to approve it since it's her post.
about secret society rituals
not much on heaven i don't think -- but maybe it's interesting in its own right.
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 27, 2005 at 3:12 PM
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people have help
from their living loved ones
once it was indulgences, but that proved awkward.
today it's people lighting little votive candles for their loved ones and then imagining that those souls have moved a little closer.
maybe other things -- i don't know -- thing is these are believers that are in this fix.
i'll have to check the catechism -- see what it says.
says you must be baptized -- and that those outside of the Cathoilic Church don't get it.
here: THEY JUST DON'T GET IT
and Reincarnation - The Early Christian Years
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 27, 2005 at 3:03 PM
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Gome
To say nothing of the expense of course. Why, one would have to remortgage one's house, sell one's wife into prostitution, and one's daughters into chastity to bear it.
Have you ever considered taking Holy Orders? You could then, beaver-like, undermine the entire edifice from within ; much in the manner of those highly industrious creatures, the termites.
Pray inform me if this proposal meets with your approval, and the next time that I take tea and seed cake with the Archbishop, I shall put in a good word for you, old chap.
posted by
ariel70
on September 27, 2005 at 2:38 PM
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i did something like this
months ago
the response was -- well you'll see what the response is like
no matte rthe variances, they will all say their way is best.
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 27, 2005 at 2:33 PM
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Gome
Yesss, I see. It would become somewhat of a Herculean project, wouldn't it. Truly a task of Augean proportions.
So many believers, so little time
posted by
ariel70
on September 27, 2005 at 2:33 PM
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ariel70 --- because they are more numerous than ants at a church picnic
..... I'd never be able to afford the bullets
posted by
gomedome
on September 27, 2005 at 2:29 PM
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Gome
So, how's about y'all git yo ass out there, with your Ak47, and shoot a few o' them goldarned believers for good old Satan? LOL
posted by
ariel70
on September 27, 2005 at 2:08 PM
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