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isa
i was thinking about that this morning. if we have no purpose though (seeking an identity and needing people to accept it) we would have no 'reason' to react. attacking always feels justified.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 9:23 AM
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I know, but it is sometimes difficult...
not to react when ppl attack you for what you are or what you believe in...it is like trying to destroy thei identity in some way...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on September 22, 2005 at 7:07 AM
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blair grattan
good point. and you're right: it does take tremendous courage to love unconditionally.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 6:12 AM
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poetjb
yes, i've heard that and it is true. we see in others what we dislike about ourselves.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 6:10 AM
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jeremy
you have made a great observation. learning is a process of 'remembering', or putting one's self back together again.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 6:10 AM
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isa
it's sad that it had to come to that. it's hard to stand back and see what's coming and not intervene. but that it the only way for some to learn. i do not believe Schree is to blame; but, then again she picked up the ball and ran with it when she had a choice not to.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 6:09 AM
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mystic
glad to have been of service. sometimes i'll have a situation i'm not seeing very clearly, and i'll read a post and it is pointed out. i think that is a miracle in itself.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 6:07 AM
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calebs
as long as you get it, you can teach it. thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 22, 2005 at 6:05 AM
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This is a dilemma as old as Methuselah. Is it "do not do unto others what you do not want others to do untio you?" or "do it first to them before they get to do it to you?" At what point in a conflict does 'self-defense arise? Is pre-emption ever a valid option.
Causa causae est causa causante. The cause of the cause is the cause of the final effect. It is all too easy to adminish others to forgive 70x7 or to turn the other cheek and to reprove those who would contend for an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. The best of meanings and intentions are often lost at the spur of the moment when reason is ill-equiped to deal with situations due to lack of time, space and knowledge. 20/20 is always a clear sight often invoked fait accompli.
It takes great courage to be a Ghandi or Mandela or Luther King, and even they were not that perfect. We ask too much sometimes of ourselves.
posted by
blair_grattan
on September 21, 2005 at 11:38 PM
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Pointing a finger at someone else leaves the rest pointing back at ourselves
Good post.
posted by
poetjpb
on September 21, 2005 at 7:55 PM
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Pointing a finger at someone else leaves the rest pointing back at ourselves
Good post.
posted by
poetjpb
on September 21, 2005 at 7:54 PM
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People can say what they think
but when they do so without thinking about what they say, it ultimately flaws their arguments so it pays to engage the brain first - perhaps this is the true meaning of pay-per-click?
posted by
malcolm
on September 21, 2005 at 2:43 PM
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calebsblogger
you just wrote what I have been onto for years.Before I began reading, I said everything with purpose involved,now it seems I want to undue this through learning.As a child I was unaware of study and purpose,And now what a mess.It seems now, learning or remembering is opening your hands empty only for what you are,and as we are, what we hold are layers, or shells that ground us away from what we are.
this rememberinbg is great,thanks.contradiction seems like experience for understanding in this sense.or for dropping
posted by
appleworks7
on September 21, 2005 at 7:08 AM
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avant garde...
they have closed Schree's account...looks like there is some serious hatred on blogit...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on September 21, 2005 at 1:17 AM
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avant
oh my goodness, i should have known there was a reason i decided to come here before turning in for the night. i fell victim to this yesterday and attached someone unjustly because i preceived (from past experience, not with the same person) that she would be the same. I attacked preceiving attack when there really was none. it was all me
posted by
MysticGmekeepr
on September 20, 2005 at 9:17 PM
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How true
I know this (though I may not be able to articulate it as well as you). Too bad, some other people I know don't "get it." (heavy sigh)
posted by
calebs_blogger
on September 20, 2005 at 7:19 PM
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yes. you have it
love is its own cause. we have to choose to manipulate other emotions, because they appear to come from without and then we must do things in order to change their appearance. i think when we decide to attack another, it is more of a self-protective knee-jerk reaction. but, if we reflect enough on the consequences, it will become apparent that it is ill chosen.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 5:04 PM
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Avant
this is simply thinking of your title,.Do you see emotions as a choice,as the choice to attack.It seems we use the emotions as grounds for reasoning in saying what we will.If those grounds were love it would be simply love.
I need to look more closely to what you say,and thank you again
posted by
appleworks7
on September 20, 2005 at 4:58 PM
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sannhet
people only see what they want to see. as long as it's pleasurable, they will continue doing it.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 1:21 PM
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isa
that you have chosen to be at peace is not cause for her lack of it, either.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 1:20 PM
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Avant -
Boy, if we could only get people to truly understand that who you are CANT be hurt, what a great world this would be.
posted by
sannhet
on September 20, 2005 at 1:19 PM
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avant garde...
this is actually my choice in this stupid internet beef...now she calls me closed minded because i won't enter this beef...whatever...i want peace...in this case peace means not to react at her comments...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on September 20, 2005 at 1:09 PM
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symphony
thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 1:02 PM
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isa
it is very silly to see it, but when it gets personal it can hurt if we let it. it is all about what you choose to look at. people who are successful disregard negative comments and focus only on the positive.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 1:02 PM
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jeremy
glad to be of help. it's good to see your blog doing well, too. your poetry is very good.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 1:01 PM
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Masky
thank you. yes, it is all about one's self and how we choose to look at ourselves and what we are up to.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 1:00 PM
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Great post.
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 20, 2005 at 10:19 AM
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I have been attacked on another blog...
I do read regularly my fellow friend and writer Count's blog...somebody there hated my comment and keeps attacking me about what i like most: rap music and hip hop culture. The more i am trying to stop debating with this conceited person, the more she seems to attack me...she says she has "beef" with me...i begin to find those internet beefs ridiculous...back in 2004, i would have gotten into it...but it seems like i am getting tired of this bullshit...the only thing that really matters is to work towards my goals and to succeed...what ppl think about me is less important...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on September 20, 2005 at 9:26 AM
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Avant
thanks for the last comments from before.I say how I see things,because I want to learn this,and that helps
thank you
posted by
appleworks7
on September 20, 2005 at 8:53 AM
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Avant - so very well put.
To get to the root of why we attack others, we must be willing to look honestly at ourselves.
I can't prove the above statement based on fact or scientific theory; however, I can speak from personal experience. We should confront the self more. Search the very part of us that reacts to certain situations and discover in ourselves what it is that causes provocation. I firmly believe it is MORE ABOUT THE SELF than about the attacker. 
posted by
Masky
on September 20, 2005 at 8:32 AM
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sincerity
thanks.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 8:29 AM
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schree
hypothetically speaking, you can defend yourself all you want. however, there are consequences.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 8:28 AM
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Avant,
Exactly !!!
posted by
SincerityAnna
on September 20, 2005 at 6:19 AM
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Avant..
I meant that hypothetically!! LOL SMH Schree`
posted by
Schree
on September 20, 2005 at 6:17 AM
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schree
there is no attack. it's made up.
posted by
avant-garde
on September 20, 2005 at 6:16 AM
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Hi Avant
Great post..And when the attacked defend themselves, we shouldn't be surprised right??
Schree`
posted by
Schree
on September 20, 2005 at 5:33 AM
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