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cantey_1975 -- you have to look at this in a positive light -- thelongroad
isn't condemning anyone to hell, he's just planning eternity for me, Very neighbourly when you think about it.
posted by
gomedome
on September 19, 2005 at 9:13 PM
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thelongroad -- find me one credible professional that backs what you are
saying. Just one who can give your little fairy tales professional acreditation. You see, that is actually how it works, professionals study the findings and endorse them based on their merit. The real discipline comes to bear in remaining objective as findings such as these are studied, if in fact it is a real scientific contention. But an outfit called "gennesis mission"? selling a book with a grandiose tale is neither an objective attempt to put forth a viable scientific contention nor is it endorsed by anyone with professional credentials. You can spin it any way you want but you've been had by an elaborate scam to sell books and judging by how vehemiantly suckers like you are defending this scam, you have to give the perpetrators credit for a good one.
posted by
gomedome
on September 19, 2005 at 9:09 PM
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wait...wasn't that..the RING of fire?
yeah...Johney Cash.
thelongroad, it is not for anyone to judge who is headed for hell.
remember what Jesus taught:
Now it came to pass, when the time had come for Him to be received up, that He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem, and sent messengers before His face. And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him. But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?"
But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them."
let it go.
posted by
calmcantey75
on September 19, 2005 at 9:00 PM
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who's gonna roast hot in the lake of fire?
Gomedome's comments = "well i can't come up with legitimate reasons to counter his points so let me just sum up all his statements, call him stupid, and say the whole thing is a fraud. Yea that sounds good. IT's a fraud, a myth. Of course, I don't have to offer any proof to this claim. haha"
posted by
thelongroad
on September 19, 2005 at 8:49 PM
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thelongroad -- your head must ache from being taken time and time again
They are selling a book, plain and simple with an eleborate scam to jumpstart the sales. It smacks of Lobsang Rampa and The Third Eye or a host of other simular types of frauds perpetrated on the North American public from offshore. No one with legitimate credentials supports it and conveniently, the one person holding the doctorate who could give this contention professional accreditation is dead (if he in fact existed at all). But let's just say for a minute that these are legitimate stone carvings and artifacts. Why is it so impossible for people like yourself to accept that in some parts of the world, fossils have been unearthed and discovered by people for centuries? It was certainly true of the one area I visited. Your contentions are not backed by mainstream science but instead are being advanced only by a few people, in a group that is selling books or building theme parks. Do you think that there is some sort of conspiracy to quell a discovery that only a few people believe to be true?
posted by
gomedome
on September 19, 2005 at 5:44 PM
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The problem here
lies with your biased nature:
A. you demonstrated that you will reject any counter-evidence, regardless of the validity
B. if someone wants to disprove any proposed claims, they can usually find some way to deny evidence.
What more fricking proof do you want? Or exactly, how can you prove that man existed with dinosaurs in such a fashion that it will shut your lies up? There is no way. Ancient man communicated through crude drawings, and these drawings show large creatures in the shape of dinosaurs. I'm sorry that ancient man didn't have Corel Art or Photoshop to take perfect images to satisfy your doubting mind. HEre is more more drawings for ya:
http://genesismission.4t.com/dinosaurs/Ica_stones.html
Of course, you fail to provide counter-evidence explaining what these images represent. Atheists neverrrrrrrrrr do that. Given the fact that many scientists are atheists, it is no surprised that pro-Christian evidence is swept under the rug or ignored. If the scientists supported the Glenn Rose claims, that would totally discredit the old earth theory and cause a huge blow to evolutionary theory. Scientists are not going to let that happen. Dr. Hilton Hinderliter said it best:
“I would have to say that the belief in evolution is in a STATE OF TERMINAL
ILLNESS but its death will only be admitted by a new generation of scientists
whose minds have not been prejudiced by the type of education now prevalent
in the nation’s public schools, an education which starts with the belief that
evolution has happened, which interprets all evidence according to that faith
and which simply discards any evidence which cannot be fitted into the evolu-
ionary framework.”
posted by
thelongroad
on September 19, 2005 at 3:36 PM
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thelongroad -- That's proof? .....of what? ....that you need glasses.
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news for you but I cannot think of one animal that has ever been reported to have a perfectly square head. This means that the animal in question on the tapestry has been stylized to suit the medium or the limitations of tapestry embroidery of the era. Same with the image on the ceramic pot, both are crude renditions of some form of animal but to call them dinosaurs is a stretch for anyone not trying to make a conclusion fit a theory. Something you seem to be good at. Quit being such a sap, don't you know when you are being taken for a ride? And yeah I've heard the concurrent human footprint yarn as well ...too bad not one credible paleanthologist backs the story....you might be able to take in a few more saps if they did.
posted by
gomedome
on September 19, 2005 at 2:16 PM
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Predictable Patterns
Of course you would deny this evidence. You HAVE to. It's your knee jerk response, and the reason that you are an athiest, not agnostic. The image perfectly mirrors the artist's rendition of a dinosaur. Gee, what more freaking proof do you need? Take a trip to Glen Rose, Texas and see fossilized human footprints along side dinosaurs. Both prints are fossilized at the same time.
posted by
thelongroad
on September 19, 2005 at 1:54 PM
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thelongroad -- you may want to revisit the two links you dropped here
I see a charicature of an indistinguishable animal, maybe a camel and a stylized alligator. How anyone could call these things dinosaurs without further guidance from the artists is beyond me.
posted by
gomedome
on September 15, 2005 at 10:09 PM
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thelongroad -- one trip to the Drumheller badlands and you would
be apologizing for this comment. There are not 2 sides to this story, the one true side as backed by archealogists and paleanthologists is still admittedly incomplete but it is based on physical evidence.
posted by
gomedome
on September 15, 2005 at 9:51 PM
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Oh Wise One, Explain This
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/9/1/1809.html
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/15
How could ancient civilizations have known to recreate images of these creatures when they were long gone before man's arrival? Just one of many examples.
There are two sides to the coin, and people should not let secular humanists like Gomedome distort the truth by distilling Biblical accounts into childish mockery tones.
posted by
thelongroad
on September 15, 2005 at 9:43 PM
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Schatz -- thank you but I feel I should add something to your comment
If there is one thing that I conceed to organized religion, it is that the social support, fellowship and sense of community that many of them provide for their constituents is an aspect that outweighs most of the negatives. In our societies we have so few alternatives to religious groups when an individual is in need of communal support. I would hate to think that anything I put to print might deter someone from this, if it is needed. Besides, you can just paste a goofy grin on your face and bob your head in unison with everyone else when they start blabbering religious stuff.....it's easy. I did it for years.
posted by
gomedome
on September 15, 2005 at 4:57 PM
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you keep me sane....
I actually thought about joining a Baptist church today. I am under a little stress and not in my right mind. Thanks for being there to keep it real.
posted by
Schatz
on September 15, 2005 at 2:37 PM
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Xeno-x -- you would find this link below very interesting
CLICK HERE I saw a preacher on TV last night claiming that the Grand Canyon proves creation as well as the great flood. In his words ..the rest of us are too stupid to see it, as scientists (the enemy) continue to spread their lies about evolution, we are all dupes of Satan willing to allow the "conspiracy" of destroying God's word to continue.
posted by
gomedome
on September 15, 2005 at 8:03 AM
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i love a good novel asm uch as they next guy
as long as people realize that's it's only just plain fiction.
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 15, 2005 at 7:16 AM
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