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isa
that's good to hear. becoming more self-aware does help a lot of things.

posted by avant-garde on September 10, 2005 at 2:59 AM | link to this | reply

thanks to you...
i become more conscious of what's happening inside of me...which will help me to progress and to correct bad mental attitudes..

posted by Marshallengraved on September 10, 2005 at 12:11 AM | link to this | reply

Jomei
you are right. we see everything as if it were happening now, when in fact it is not. we cover over now, by fantasizing about what is wrong and who is to blame and how to fix it, as if it were possible. i deliberately make my posts short, because it makes it much more salient. i have two young boys, and i cannot stay away from them long. when i see a really long post, i have no choice but not read it. thanks for your comment.

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 5:10 PM | link to this | reply

appleworks
i think i get what you are getting at. no, bandying ideas about changes nothing. but, if you can see in your mind the process, that is all that is needed. let it go. when you are completely unprepared, you will see it in action. that's when the insight changes how you look at things. it sounds easy but the hard part is pushing when it doesn't come. go ahead and elucidate your point further if you need to.

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 5:07 PM | link to this | reply

I loved your line 'The idea of ending is born in the desire to make what never was immortal.' Very thought provoking. So much of the impressions we get bombarded with from day one are concerned with the image rather than the reality. The most obvious example is TV, we watch it 'as if it was really happening' and actually forget that that its a mirage. We imagine what we see is happening now, yet it is like Plato's shadows on the cave wall. TV is the materialisation of our mistaking the image on the cave wall for the actual projection. By the way, I appreciate that your posts say a lot in relatively few words.

posted by Jomei on September 9, 2005 at 5:01 PM | link to this | reply

avant
my last comment came out all tied up,I will try to explain better if  you like.

posted by appleworks7 on September 9, 2005 at 4:46 PM | link to this | reply

avant

understanding how things work does not change how things work.Is this also accepting what is ,like accepting how we are brought up in society.or to see it as conditioning,it is growing into another where consequences dont exist.This is where I  am at,and that is the past. but is it not also a growing from the past, as a process and holding on to it.

thank you,I still do not understand,

posted by appleworks7 on September 9, 2005 at 4:40 PM | link to this | reply

isa
yes, it is a reflection of an inner state. thanks.

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 1:34 PM | link to this | reply

sannhet
much, much simpler. how light and ethereal everything becomes when the weight of the world is lifted!

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 1:33 PM | link to this | reply

ravencat
excellent comment. i have been a worry wart for most of my life. my mom taught to all four of us kids. we all have phobias as a result. it is one my life lessons: learning that fear is not real. thank you for the knowledge you shared.

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 1:32 PM | link to this | reply

quirky
yes, fear created the supposed condition, which we call happiness, but fear is felt in association with having chosen it. is it really happiness?

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 1:31 PM | link to this | reply

ariala
yes, you're right. if we dwelt upon good things, then more good would happen.

posted by avant-garde on September 9, 2005 at 1:13 PM | link to this | reply

that was very helpful for me today...
i was bothered by a personal problem and this article helped me to go further...thanks...i also feel better now...maybe my physical problem was the manisfestation of what was happening inside of my mind...damn, i have to control my thoughts!

posted by Marshallengraved on September 9, 2005 at 12:54 PM | link to this | reply

Avant -
Great post. Everything in my mind "never was" because everything is an illusion. If we can grasp that, then life bcomes much simpler.

posted by sannhet on September 9, 2005 at 11:28 AM | link to this | reply

Great minds...

think alike.  I was reading & re-reading your post, and then when I went to the comment section, there's Quirky's comment...saying what I was about to say & quoting the section of your post that hit me between the eyes!  ("how much happiness is there....."). 

Fear is an illusion & stands for False Evidence Appearing Real.  Thought you'd be interested in a Univ. of Penn. study that found 40% of our worries never materialze, 30% of our worries deal with the past, (and nothing can be done about those worries), another 12 % were found to be directed toward other people's business (and nothing can be done about those things either), and another 10% were spent on imagined illnesses.  Only 8% of worries were found in this study to be "justified"......Interesting, huh? 

posted by ravencat18 on September 9, 2005 at 10:46 AM | link to this | reply

avant--
I like this post...I kept going back again and again to this line, and realizing its truth: How much happiness is there when we are afraid of losing what supposedly supplied it?

posted by Julia. on September 9, 2005 at 10:15 AM | link to this | reply

avant-garde, great post! I think the things of the mind can hurt us as
much as the physical if we dwell on the them instead of peace, love and light.

posted by Ariala on September 9, 2005 at 4:17 AM | link to this | reply