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PEEWEE, I had to read your comment three times, as my old Sufi uncle suggests,
and I can see your jouney to that oneness and I bid you well.
I move like a snail in the garden of the gods, much too slowly for all the looking around and listening that I do, but still moving toward the light, I hope.
Thank you for the oil on our waters.
posted by
benzinha
on July 26, 2003 at 10:35 AM
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Comment from Pewee - however late - on Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X to Benzhina and MHW
To both of you, have your discourse on "Effects of the Causes" as you might. The first cause is man falling in consciousness of who he is as a Spiritual Being, with access to the total of God in attributes. That amount of what degree of God we express is tied into individual consciousness.
When we surrender our individual power to the universe, that cohesive power unit we have been seeking is then free for others to "neatly bundle," and then, through the exercise of the awareness of who he/she is, the "liberator" presses toward the reality of universal oneness, though he/she only represents the cry for one segment that has been fragmented from that consciousness.
It is like illness, "there is nothing to be 'healed - only God to be revealed." If we knew who we were, we would not be standing at the gateway "crying" for this freedom to be what we already are. We need to go through the "portal" and become un-fragmented in our awareness of who we are.
We are synchronicity! That is - we function on our own to do our own thing, but everything is more dynamic when the human race functions as a whole.
When this Millennium came, it is supposed to be the 1,000 years of the Christ Consciousness. I hope after this war, it is ushered in and takes its deserved place!
Pewee
posted by
Pewee
on July 26, 2003 at 8:20 AM
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I thank you missyj and only do what Miss Manners insists upon. We all have much to learn
from each other, books don't ever tell it all. Many people's views add up to a closer reckoning of what really goes on in this agonizingly joyous existence.
Today's existence is particularly agonizing as my six year old grandson gave me his terribly agonizing cold this weekend.
posted by
benzinha
on July 25, 2003 at 1:51 PM
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Wow, what this colloquy won't do
for the standards of discourse around here. Nice to see someone raise the bar. Way to go Nana and MHW!
posted by
missyjblog
on July 25, 2003 at 12:20 PM
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Dear MHW, I would never presume to school the Master Schooler Scholar.
I am older than dirt and maybe just older than you. I was not raised inside a closet just reading either; I engaged in the life I speak about, wandered this crazy world like you did and absorbed information as I read, studied and conversed and involved myself in the work of the Minor Justice League of True Living.
We do not know each other, I am just beginning to read your blogs and getting to know your mindset. You do not know me.
However, you were teaching your opinion of things and I felt that MLK was not such a shallow House Slave as you portrayed him to be and that he did not deserve such belittling. Our opinions differ. I added my thoughts.
I was never at any moment trying to school you. Never you. From your writing, I would guess that you might be my old brother-in-law scholar from Howard, but probably not. But, are you, maybe? Do you maybe not have a wee bit of the Irish blood in you, man?
I just wanted you to know that I knew whereof you wrote. Not in the same breadth and depth, most assuredly, but not as a sheepish reader/believer either. Yes, I made a silly comment about afros and knew that it would irk. I apologize. The Nation of Islam is very conservative in its dress and personal presentation.
I do not, like anyone else, except those directly concerned, know who killed which man, I only know that America fears and ends the life of any truly revolutionary speaker/leader. Ineffectual leaders may speak and lead their few forever.
And so, you say your views are etched upon your life's stone; mine are not, I am still willing to learn, be taught and discuss things. Another's history can possibly add something new to my knowledge and that of other readers. As you said to me, so far, you have only taught what I already know.
I shall keep attending your seminars, hoping to learn some new ideas and beliefs and to possibly be swayed. Perhaps, I shall etch some of yours upon my stone before I die. And then again, perhaps not.
I've got my notebooks open and have sharpened my pencils. Teach, brother scholar man. I thank you for your courtesy.
"Spend in pure converse our eternal day;
Think each in each, immediately wise;
Learn all we lacked before; hear, know, and say
What this tumultuous body now denies;
And feel, who have laid their groping hands away;
And see, no longer blinded by our eyes." ~ Rupert Brooke
posted by
benzinha
on July 25, 2003 at 11:07 AM
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Benzinha, With All Due Respect, Your Post Did Not Inform Me Of Anything That
I do not already know. When it comes to what is frequently referred to as black history, I am a scholar. I have more knowledge about the subject than just about anyone in America -- and yes, I AM bragging.
If I so desired, I could pick apart your argument and really "show you up." You are obviously well-read on the subject of black history, but based on this post and some of your other writings concerning the "black experience," you still have a lot of homework to do.
However, I will briefly discuss two matters that you made mention of in your article.
First, the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.-- How do you know what was REALLY behind his killing. Do you have some informants who were members of the FBI back in 1968? Do you have access to top secret information about the clandestine activities of America's power elite?
The point is, what you expressed in your post concerning the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. is merely the "stuff" that is fed to the public (especially blacks) by a few segments of the news media, various black activists and writers and some conspiracy theorists who are only speculating.
The truth is, no one walking around in the streets -- including you and I -- has any idea why King was killed and what the motivations were. For all you or any other "civilian" knows," he could have been snuffed out by some other blacks.
Very few things that occur in this world are as simple as they seem. One thing that I have learned over the years is that I do not really know anything. I am well-informed, but all of my information comes from the same places that you obtain yours -- from the news media, books, lecturers, scholars, the internet, etc. But the problem with that is, much of the information that I, and everyone else, receives is based only on what the sources are aware of, and believe me, there are a whole lot of things that they are unaware of.
Briefly, your statement about Malcolm X not wearing an "afro" was somewhat silly. For one thing, throughout the era that the "afro" was a popular hairstyle among blacks, the devout members of the Nation of Islam always kept their hair close-cropped. Furthermore, Malcolm X died in 1965, and at that time, the "afro" had not yet become "all the rage."
Benzinha, I have no doubt that you are good, well-meaning person, but please do not ever attempt "educate" me again. If you want to express an opposing view to something I write, feel free to do so. That is your right.
But when it comes to challenging me, you must always keep a few things in mind: (1) I have been researching the "black experience" longer than many of the contributors on BN have been alive. (2) Nearly all of my views or opinions concerning the racial issues and the "black experience" are "etched in stone." I can't be budged. (3) Many, if not most, of my views and opinions are based on first-hand knowledge, not on something I read, heard about, or saw on TV.
Finally, you are you, and I am me. We are two different people, meaning you have your way of seeing things and I have mine.
posted by
Feenix
on July 25, 2003 at 4:40 AM
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