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                    Man, that reeks that your boy
                
                got punched by another kid.  I guess I would be glad it wasn't my kid doing the punching.  The other parent has a much bigger problem on their hands.
                
                    posted by
                    Joe_Love
                     on September 2, 2005 at 6:30 AM
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                Dave Cryer, my impression is that boy is picked on too, not in a violent way but in a goading way that gets at him. It happens because it gets at him of course. Another boy is currently on a big detention for picking on this kid. I think it's good that my son has seen how these things play out.
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 30, 2005 at 2:24 AM
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                Glad it's moved on a bit, May. The bully needs help to stop him doing it to someone else's kid.
                
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                    _dave_says_ack_
                     on August 30, 2005 at 1:58 AM
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                Follow-up on the boy who punched mine:  I visited the school and met the teacher. She said  that the suggestion that I had that the boy have some counselling was in train already. I am pleased about that.  She said the boy's family had initially claimed they would come and see us and sort it out. They didn't. 
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 29, 2005 at 4:48 PM
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                Lensman, I agree
                
                    posted by
                    Azur
                     on August 28, 2005 at 9:28 PM
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                    MayB
                
                Good points.  Sometimes I think those people who stretch "free speech" beyond the limits of its definition can be considered bullies, as well, since, in a way, they're abusing the concept at the expense of others.
                
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                    Lensman
                     on August 28, 2005 at 8:10 PM
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                    If he's facing a bully
                
                the school can't always protect him.  In my experience with bullies, (I could write a book) the only thing that really stops them is to face up to them. Long story short: new kid in town, target, runs away, hides, finally fights back, end of bullying. 
  I taught my own kids, never throw the first punch, but if someone hits you, go after them with all you've got. Don't waste time in trash talk, posing, or threats. 
                
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                    Pat_B
                     on August 28, 2005 at 7:35 AM
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                Right. Suspension may breed further resentment.
                
                    posted by
                    A-and-B
                     on August 28, 2005 at 3:05 AM
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                Thanks Symphony and Timmy. I think that the bully boy needs to have someone who he can talk to. I think that if that can be arranged and if he   shows signs of improvement he should remain. My boy is fine 
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 27, 2005 at 7:55 PM
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                    mayb
                
                Sorry to hear that your son was bullied. If this is not the first time, perhaps something other than sending him home and calling his parents is in order.
                
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                    TIMMYTALES
                     on August 27, 2005 at 9:20 AM
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                    I am sorry about your boy...
                
                Take care - I hope the bullying can stop...it's just not nice..
  as for being excluded...it doesn't help at all....I was excluded a lot in school..(not for violence).and I thought it was good because I loved being at home ....there needs to be more of a punishment in schools.
                
                    posted by
                    _Symphony_
                     on August 27, 2005 at 7:08 AM
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                Ca88andra, I agree that it is not up to the school. There is one thing that I think the school should recommend to the parents  and then conditionally the boy could return to school
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 27, 2005 at 3:58 AM
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                I guess if its not the first incident, the school might not have any other option. Perhaps the parents should be looking for some solutions, after all its not up to the school to bring up children, merely to educate them.
                
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                    Ca88andra
                     on August 27, 2005 at 12:47 AM
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                    I think it's a shame when punishment is used...
                
                ..instead of corrective measures.  All excluding that boy will do is intensify his anger and that will get him nowhere.  I think it's great that you are concerned for his welfare.
                
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                    ginnieb
                     on August 26, 2005 at 10:09 PM
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                    MayB
                
                Yes .. You understand that this boy needs help and your willing to try to see that he gets it. That is kind of you. I hope you efforts are a success! 
                
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                    BrightIrish
                     on August 26, 2005 at 9:31 PM
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                I really admire parents and teachers for being able to deal with these things. I don't know if I could do it.  Heck, I had a hard enough time of it when one of my dogs attacked the other. Kids?  Sheewww, I don't know..  
 
                
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                    Holy_Grail
                     on August 26, 2005 at 8:41 PM
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                Tissi Blake, the way I see it, it could easily have been me receiving that  call. IN fact we went through a difficult time in which I had some experience on the other side
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 26, 2005 at 6:58 PM
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                    way to go May
                
                as a high school subsitute teacher and soon to be full time teacher  I want to thank you for seeing past the "bully" "jerk" "mean" words so many times used for these children. They are crying out for help and sometimes punishment only makes things worse. They need help in addition to discipline. Hopefully someone at the school can see this and find the right place for this child. You are also setting an excellent example for your child 
  Tissi Blake 
                
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                    TissiBlake
                     on August 26, 2005 at 6:44 PM
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                    I wish all parents had your attitude May
                
                Too many would be unable to see past their anger. With a strong support system, this type of behavior can be turned around. Hoping it's in place for him.
                
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                    Katray2
                     on August 26, 2005 at 6:11 PM
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                QuirkyAlone, if the school can help to do that I'd rather they did than exclude him
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 26, 2005 at 6:04 PM
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                BrightIrish, I am going to call the school on Monday. There is a course of action which may help this boy and I want to ask if they have recommended this to the family. I know it's strange when it was boy who was punched but I feel concerned.
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 26, 2005 at 6:03 PM
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                    MayB
                
                I agree, the school is in a bad position.. It is the parents who should seek out the source of their son's problem..
                
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                    BrightIrish
                     on August 26, 2005 at 5:14 PM
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                re: the boy...it really is too bad...getting to the root of whatever causes him to lash out, is the only way to stop him from doing it again. 
                
                    posted by
                    Julia.
                     on August 26, 2005 at 4:58 PM
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                BrightIrish, I know what she meant and I laughed too. Re the child, I think the school is in a difficult position. They try to help each child but they can't have a loose cannon in their midst. Sadly the boy may end up in a worse place where less care is taken
                
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                    Azur
                     on August 26, 2005 at 4:55 PM
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                    MayB
                
                Hi.. I had to laugh at TapselT's comment..  It's not something to be ignored with a pre-set punishment.. Time and effort should be spent on getting to the core of the childs behavior while something still can be done to correct the problem.
 It's not something to be ignored with a pre-set punishment.. Time and effort should be spent on getting to the core of the childs behavior while something still can be done to correct the problem.
                
                    posted by
                    BrightIrish
                     on August 26, 2005 at 4:21 PM
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                Tapsel_T, we can see it now
                
                    posted by
                    Azur
                     on August 26, 2005 at 4:02 PM
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                MayB, Those little boys will grow up to be bloggers someday and what will we see on the comments pages then?
                
                    posted by
                    TAPS.
                     on August 26, 2005 at 3:55 PM
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