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thelongroad --- that's even funnier than your last comment
You suggesting that someone need to have rational thoughts is hilarious. Here's a news flash for you, the bible is a fully agendized, manipulated and bastardized work of which no one can say that they are following the original manuscript. This includes you and your little band of deluded exclusionists. To suggest that any one group somehow has it's interpretation right simply ignores history but that is what you and your kind do best. Ignore whatever doesn't fit into your delusion. Just for the record I do not belong to a band of God haters nor do I particularly have sentiments one way or the other for a manufactured being. What I do hate is having to adjust every one of my life's actions to satisfy or comply with the limitations of others and their mindless beliefs in the improbable.
posted by
gomedome
on August 24, 2005 at 6:35 AM
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The Fog of Ignorance
Gomedome, look past your biased fog for a second to have some rational thoughts, dude. You can't have two beliefs contradict each other, and then both claim to be Christian. Catholics will claim that the Bible is the Word of God then accept beliefs that go against it. That's not Christianity.
Of course, you think it is all bogus anyways which means you are NOT an authority on the subject, and your input is worthless here. The Christian faith clearly is based on the Bible as the divine word of God, and if you read the last verses of Revelation, it says to not add or take anything away from these scriptures. Catholics, Mormons, JWs have violated this.
Ok, you can return to your little God hater club now.
posted by
thelongroad
on August 23, 2005 at 11:46 PM
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thelongroad -- you wouldn't know the "facts" if they bit you on the ass
How typically Christian in condemning other Christian groups because they have added new twists to the path to heaven delusion. One more time...the Roman Catholic church assembled, translated, edited and basically invented the bible and all of the premises of traditional worship, as well as traditional definitions of God and the holy trinity. It's all man made gibberish anyways but to suggest that the church that established Christianity as well as other groups such as the Jehovah Witnesses etc. all have it wrong and you have it right is completely laughable. You don't have anything right except your ability to condemn countless billions of people on a moronic religious premise. A contention that has you and the few million people that share your particular brand of delusion going to heaven while all of the other misguided souls throughout history just wasted their efforts worshipping false Gods through ignorance. Yeah...that makes sense ... if you are sniffing glue..... Give your head a shake.
posted by
gomedome
on August 23, 2005 at 9:40 PM
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Only the Facts Dude
I merely state the facts. Catholicism in it's full form is not Christianity. Their faith is action based, and the doctrines completely contract the teaching in the Bible. Christ is the only way to salvation, oh but wait, you can get in the back door through the Virgin Mary? The Bible also teaches a direct relationship with Christ, but with Catholicism, you are confessing sins to a priest instead. There are countless little doctrines that are completely unBiblical. Any faith that goes against the teachings of the Bible is not Christian. This includes Mormons, Jehovah Witness and so on.
posted by
thelongroad
on August 23, 2005 at 9:18 PM
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calebs_blogger -- I see in your comment a whole lot of constructive
rationalization as to why an all powerful God seems so impotent in communicating his will to us: When you say: "As I see it, God could have revealed all His plans to us in a way there was no doubt. But this would border on having no choice in our belief either. I think God prefers to go 9 steps towards us but leave the 10th step up to us. He wants us to choose to come to Him freely and not compell us to do so."
How about there is no conscious entity that some refer to as God? It explains this lack of communication and his unwillingness to reveal himself just as well if not better. It does however fail to pander to the human need to believe in a being that all logic suggests does not exist.
posted by
gomedome
on August 23, 2005 at 8:20 PM
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I couldn't resist
coming back to your blog to give you more opportunities for fun winding up a Bible thumper.
Notice I use a capital "B". At least I know I can serve a useful purpose in your blog space.
I've been absent too long.
As I see it, you completely reject the notion of faith entirely. Everything must stand up to physical, logical, prove-it-to-me-beyond-any-doubt scrutiny. In other words, you would only accept a religion which required no faith what so ever. Or at least no faith any different than having faith that gravity will hold you to the earth and you won't float away. You have the repeatable, observable, physical evidence.
As I see it, God could have revealed all His plans to us in a way there was no doubt. But this would border on having no choice in our belief either. I think God prefers to go 9 steps towards us but leave the 10th step up to us. He wants us to choose to come to Him freely and not compell us to do so.
As for "my religion is the best" I guess I will just try to say what I believe to be true. I don't look down on anybody else. I kind of hope they don't look down on me and we can have a good discussion. I think God wants me to say what I believe. I am not responsible for whether others are converted to my beliefs. That is the responsibility of the Holy Spirit. My "competence" as a messenger is not the issue. God can use imperfect people like me. Thre process can take decades for some people.
I prefer loving faith over cold analysis.
posted by
calebs_blogger
on August 23, 2005 at 7:57 PM
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thelongroad -- you've outdone yourself for pure comedy in this comment
Better not tell the Catholics that they're not Christians because they think they are. I guess I shouldn't bring up the fact that your religion broke away from Catholicism ..... oops I just did. Who do you think assembled the scriptures to make your precious bible? ..and who do you think first acknowledged the diety of Jesus Christ? All of this was the doing of the Catholic church of Rome, to suggest that they can't be in the little exclusive "right path to heaven club" anymore is hilarious. But you probably don't know any of this or the history and evolution of your faith ...do you? You may be right in suggesting that it is difficult to be a Christian........shutting out that much reality has to be tough.
posted by
gomedome
on August 23, 2005 at 6:52 PM
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Hello Again
Logic would suggest that if man created Christianity, why in the world would he make it so hard to be a Christian? Christianity requires that man give up his most prized posession, self-pride and self indentity.
Ever other world religion is action based. Do this physical action, and you get to heaven which reeks of being man-made. The other world religions stroke man's pride as he achieves success in the physical actions.
Not Christianity. (and sorry, Catholicism does not count as Christianity). Christianity is spiritual based requiring a believer to surrender their own desires and seek God through prayer and Bible study. You don't even have to attend church to be a Christian. No man would have created such a belief system.
posted by
thelongroad
on August 23, 2005 at 5:10 PM
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Xeno-x -- I read your posting in two sittings as it's a long one
There is nothing unusual about a little bit of revisionist whitewash of horrific events, it happens far too often. The really sad part is that people today just don't understand what role the church of Rome played in international politics since it's inception. Condoning all manner of atrocities from assassination to torture and murder in the furtherance of the establishment of their faith. Where one can always argue that historic events are subject to interpretation, it is pretty difficult to re-write or refute events witnessed and independantly chronicled by so many people.
posted by
gomedome
on August 23, 2005 at 2:34 PM
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good
haven't felt like posting or commenting lately
check out BLIND FAITH though
response to Twodog's insistence that the Inquisition was not as awful as we have heard that it was.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 23, 2005 at 9:02 AM
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Gome -

I'm there with you.
posted by
sannhet
on August 22, 2005 at 2:59 PM
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*My religion is the best religion in the world, all others are inferior *
lol that's a bad mentallity...God is love and thus tolerance:)
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 22, 2005 at 2:11 PM
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