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posted by
majroj
on August 28, 2005 at 8:26 PM
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Majroj, nobody is perfect;-)
Yeah, the "frosting" covered a lot.
posted by
Cynthia
on August 28, 2005 at 10:08 AM
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"FROSTING"!
damn, can't even disgrace myself properly.
Oh, yeah, and now the toolbar with the smileyfaces appears.
posted by
majroj
on August 27, 2005 at 4:42 PM
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I tried and tried, but can't repress it anymore...
did the Berkshires seem dreamlike on account of that fronting? (sorrreeeeeee.....)(:(>>>
posted by
majroj
on August 27, 2005 at 4:41 PM
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Cynthia,
Yes, I see your point about socialization and repressing and roots...
posted by
SilverMoon7
on August 22, 2005 at 2:44 AM
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Factorfiction, nasty yes, but how often things that
are happening right under our noses that we are in denial about. After horrendous family situations get revealed you always see the dumbfounded relatives and neighbors on the nightly news saying "I had NO idea, he looked like such a NICE guy." Then there is the shame of the victims - combine denial with shame and i think I'll stick to saying "most fathers", not that "most" act on the feelings, just that "most" have the feelings.
posted by
Cynthia
on August 21, 2005 at 8:46 AM
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thought provoking to be sure.
But personally... ewww that gives me the creeps. It is a nasty situation certainly...
posted by
FactorFiction
on August 21, 2005 at 8:25 AM
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Silvermoon, I do tend to speak and write
in terms that might be considered exaggerations. All my evidence is anecdotal. However, I think part of the socialization process involves the supression of those feelings, not that the actual roots of the feelings don't exist.
posted by
Cynthia
on August 21, 2005 at 8:14 AM
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Benzinha, I don't think
the factors you mentioned actually play that much of a role. All the cases that I have known involved educated, in some instances, highly educated people. It's the old nature vs nurture argument. In the end I think nature wins every time.
posted by
Cynthia
on August 21, 2005 at 8:10 AM
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Joe_Love, I don't think this is
something that most men talk about, not in back rooms, to other men, or anywhere else.
posted by
Cynthia
on August 21, 2005 at 8:06 AM
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I'm not really sure that sexual attraction exists between most men and their daughters. Although I can only speak for myself, I never had those feelings for my own father, and find it hard to imagine that *most* fathers would harbor sexual feelings for their daughters. A fair number, perhaps. Some, certainly. but most? Who can really say? A thought-provoking post, however! Thanks for stopping by!
posted by
SilverMoon7
on August 21, 2005 at 5:37 AM
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cynthia, unless we took a survey and everyone soul searched and then
answered, how could we ever know whether it's some or all or most? I know that I always thought that my boys were yummy, but never wanted to do more than dress them better for the girls out there and aid them in their search for love.
Maybe it has to do with testosterone levels and opportunity and education and alcohol, things like that.
posted by
benzinha
on August 21, 2005 at 1:28 AM
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Cynthia
I don't think MOST men have sexual feelings about their daughters. I've heard enough backroom talk to form an opinion about this.
posted by
Joe_Love
on August 20, 2005 at 5:58 PM
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Dear Anthony Wiley, I know we share
a certain perspective on life- I can't quite describe it - but I know we've had some similar experiences.
posted by
Cynthia
on August 20, 2005 at 5:27 PM
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Cynthia
"see them, the mothers, most mothers, as being weak, manipulative and cowardly. A disgusting stew. We are all simmering in this same pot. No one sees that it's boiling over. Everyone is a victim here. All are getting burned"
Your posts are so very much about REAL life and this one touched me where it really hurt.
My first wife was from such a father/daughter relationship that was very much incest driven, and my mother-in-law was just exactly as you describe. The strange thing to me was, she was a very attractive woman, but this all happened under her nose.
That marriage ended after twenty years and it ended as my psychotherapist said when I had finally got too close to the truth of it all for my wife to be able to face it with me.
Great post luv.
posted by
WileyJohn
on August 19, 2005 at 5:02 PM
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