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Make2short
No, it shows honesty and I have not heard any arguments on either side. I would need to have arguments presented before I can dismiss them. Since I wrote this post and no one replied, there were no arguments made. One reason why I write such things is to get arguments. Feel free to tell me how I am wrong, not just say I am. Tell me where the mistakes are. You seem to be under the misunderstanding that I am trying to attack with this kind of post. I am just straight out explaining what I see. You wish to view it as an attack instead of seeing it as a presentation of how believers look.
The thing is you only wish to see me attacking and are unwilling to actually see my posts for what they are.
If I am mistaken, go and prove the point I made here are wrong. I will read your argument with much more respect than you show anything I write and if you are able to make a good point I will openly admit it, or if I see flaw with your reasoning I will point that out. Believe it or not when a believer write a really good argument here that makes sense I will give the credit for it. it has happened and normally it is not trying to say I am wrong or put me down, but instead talks about their beliefs on the idea and how they view the world. At that point when it is more about their own personal beliefs it is harder to find flaws compared to it being someone just spitting out BS from the Bible.
What you seem to want if for me to not see any flaws with the beliefs and not talk about what I see going on with believers. You claim to admit to having flaws, yet you get upset if anyone talks about them. I write what I see and observe. At no point have I ever claimed nonbeliever to be perfect, but I very honestly do believer they are generally happier and more with it than believers. This is from my observations in life.
Reread this paragraph, which is where I think you took your 'black and white' idea from.
"Due to this it does not surprise me that the most miserable people I have ever known have been believers who just are not happy with life because they are too focused on the goal, and the happiest people I have known have been unbelievers who are just making sure the journey is a good one."
At no point did I ever say 'All'. I just said the most miserable I have known were believers and happiest I have know were non-believers. You see that is straight out fact, so I am puzzled here as to how you can claim that is being prejudice. I know what I have seen in life.
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kooka_lives
on August 11, 2005 at 7:06 AM
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Your entire descriptions
of believers and nonbelievers shows your prejudice. Although some believers are as simplistic as you make them out to be, many are not. The journey is important because our faith is developed. The destiny is important because we will be face to face with Christ. You write as if all believers are unhappy and all non believers are happy. That is logically impossible. Whereas I and many believers write as if some Christians including myself are in error, have failings, have bad days, etc. Your write in black and white terms. You dismiss every argument against what you are saying without considering it. You have one standard for yourself and a completely different one for the rest of the world.
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Make2short
on August 11, 2005 at 12:27 AM
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