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hemlocker
so true.

posted by avant-garde on July 31, 2005 at 12:45 AM | link to this | reply

sincerity anna
thanks.

posted by avant-garde on July 31, 2005 at 12:45 AM | link to this | reply

avante
The words are rather like the gun advocates define their weapons. Words don't kill; people kill. The words are just tools. We can use them for ill or good. There are no bad dogs and no bad words. Hemlocker

posted by Hemlocker on July 30, 2005 at 10:55 PM | link to this | reply

Avant,
WOW...what a great post..you said it so well...and I truly agree !!!

posted by SincerityAnna on July 30, 2005 at 8:32 PM | link to this | reply

MayB
yes, get the feel of it. it means so much more when we can get to the core of ourselves through it. great comment.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 5:32 PM | link to this | reply

I think we need to look at the word, read between the lines - ie the words not spoken and to look at the emotion.

posted by Azur on July 30, 2005 at 5:29 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde, I agree. It happens both negatively and positively and depends on how we are pre-disposed to that author. Often there is no logic to why we form an opinion -- it might be a turn of phrase or mismatched humor.
Sometimes whatever we write will not shift someone's opinion of us. I love it when a writer can shift my opinion - that is very powerful

posted by Azur on July 30, 2005 at 5:27 PM | link to this | reply

MayB
yes, but even more than that we tend to see what we want to see when we look.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 5:18 PM | link to this | reply

vane
thanks.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 5:18 PM | link to this | reply

yes they are easily miscontrued, particularly when we cannot see expressions. When we read we have to ask ourselves what we think the author may have been trying to say.

posted by Azur on July 30, 2005 at 5:15 PM | link to this | reply

well put, i agree.

posted by Vanidad on July 30, 2005 at 4:58 PM | link to this | reply

MayB
there are a lot of ways we communicate, and by words is just one of them. it helps a lot to get the entire feel of what someone is saying, but some words are obviously misconstrued.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 4:56 PM | link to this | reply

marshallengraved
yes, or at least realize that a word can be interpreted in many different ways, depending on one's conditioning.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 4:55 PM | link to this | reply

quirky
thanks. it is a bit strange when you see it for the first time.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 4:54 PM | link to this | reply

Hemlocker
good point. i'm not against words at all. in fact, i love them. but, they have their place and when we get angry enough to kill over them, there must be something wrong.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 4:48 PM | link to this | reply

metta
sorry for the confusion. all i'm trying to say is that we are here relating to something, and calling it God, and it is real for us. therefore, God is what He is and what He is not (the way we relate to Him).

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 4:47 PM | link to this | reply

I think we should read between the lines

posted by Azur on July 30, 2005 at 3:16 PM | link to this | reply

A word...
is a creation..there is always sth real behind a word...but ppl need to interpret a word in the right context...there are often so many possibilities to define a word...

posted by Marshallengraved on July 30, 2005 at 3:15 PM | link to this | reply

I thought this was really beautiful...I'm not sure how I really feel about the theory...but it has made me think about it...and thinking is good, right?

posted by Julia. on July 30, 2005 at 2:59 PM | link to this | reply

avante
Those of us who love words do not love them because of the way they look on paper, or whether they are "real." Something "twice-removed" as you say, that can stimulate us to feel, to hear, to smell, to remember, to influence, to incite, even to love, is of a value beyond price. Thomas Paine helped put the American Revolution into the realm of reality with COMMON SENSE, although the words he used could and can be found anywhere else. I think the problem is not with what words are or are not, but with trying to compare everything to God. Hemlocker

posted by Hemlocker on July 30, 2005 at 2:46 PM | link to this | reply

nope.... I think you got too intellectual for me...

posted by Metta on July 30, 2005 at 12:40 PM | link to this | reply

madame P.O.
no, i have delved deeply into the nature of reality for quite some time, reading and pondering, thinking and meditating. one is active, the other passive. i think that this information is available to everyone, but you have to question everything you hold dear and believe is true.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 8:50 AM | link to this | reply

metta
you're exactly right. what is not God is still God, but it is what God is not. What God is not is essential, therefore, for the existence of God. does that make sense? it is neither this nor that, but all of it.

posted by avant-garde on July 30, 2005 at 8:49 AM | link to this | reply

excellent post

I read it several times - especially stopping at the part about the fragrance of the flower, is not the flower and thought about that...  but found myself thinking that yes, it is... and how much the fragrance and the flower are like God... you can put your "hands" on Him, but if you were to try to hold on to His essence, His "fragrance" it would slip through your hands... He is to be held, but will not be held... the fragrance is much like the spirit, you can put your hands upon the body but can only "experience" the spirit - and not handle it with the fingers...

I hope this makes sense.  I probably took the post somewhere other than you meant to go - but, honestly, though I have read of the flower and the fragrance before, there was something about what you wrote that really moved me and led me to ponder upon it, thank you.  As always, I enjoy your writing.

posted by Metta on July 30, 2005 at 6:04 AM | link to this | reply

What a lovely sentiment.
Did you come up with that all by yourself?

posted by Mademoiselle on July 30, 2005 at 5:26 AM | link to this | reply