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That is why many churches work so hard on pushing the idea that all other religions are going to hell, even the other off branches of Christianity. They have to make sure all other beliefs systems look evil to their followers in order to keep them. They is a huge level of keeping the heard in line involved in such actions.

posted by kooka_lives on July 21, 2005 at 8:16 AM | link to this | reply

TIMMYTALES
The church does not care about literacy. The less people read and less people think the more power they have over those people. You will generally see that it is the more controlling churches who go out and push this kind of BS. it is the churches who want to keep their followers as ignorant and close-minded as possible who use such tactics.

posted by kooka_lives on July 21, 2005 at 8:13 AM | link to this | reply

tigerprincess
The church has always been looking for whatever is popular to go after. they need targets to direct their followers towards. Look at how they took John Lennon's little remark about being bigger than Jesus. No matter how accurate it was, and it was pretty much dead on, the church was very much able to use that as way to go after the biggest rock group ever without really working at it.
The church will go after whatever is popular to get attention and push their control of their followers.

posted by kooka_lives on July 21, 2005 at 8:11 AM | link to this | reply

Hemlocker
I have to very much disagree with you there. First off I have known people who have gotten into 'witchcraft' and really I have not seen them doing anything 'evil' or gain any real powers. It is mostly a lifestyle and is really no different at all from be a Christian.

The Harry Potter books are also not really about the occult. Nothing in them is even close to being accurate about such things. It is more about myth, since Rowling uses a lot of aspects from real myths and stories that are out there. By your logic we need to keep kids away from, well all Disney movies. I can not think of one that does not have some kind of magic in it. I could make a huge list of things where there is magic in them that has nothing to do with the occult at all, but is just as accurate as the magic they have in the Harry Potter books. Most entertainment should be banned by your logic.

But believers have to believe that all witchcraft is evil just because the Bible says so. Fine. Even there though if you ar a good parent and believe then you teach your kids and you work with them. My five year old has about the best concept of reality out of a five year old. He more or less understand what is real and what is not. Me and my wife are very active in teaching him such things.

of course this goes with the idea I see both in religion and with in certain political circles that says ban things instead of teaching things, it is easier. The truth is that banning does not real solve ay problems at all. The church is just out for control.

posted by kooka_lives on July 21, 2005 at 8:07 AM | link to this | reply

maybe they're afraid
and that's why they burned so many witches at the stake
that if witchcraft were to get strong enough, it would become larger than the Church and that would be the end of Christianity as we know it.

posted by Xeno-x on July 21, 2005 at 6:21 AM | link to this | reply

Kooka

Maybe they should take some of their money, buy a couple thousand copies and then burn them in protest...........that's about as much sense as they are making.

The main thing about the Potter books is that it is getting kids to read!!

posted by TIMMYTALES on July 20, 2005 at 9:23 PM | link to this | reply

That is so stupid. That's right up with people insisting that Bert and Ernie on Seasame Street were portraying a gay couple, yeah that Bert and Ernie, or that La-La on Teletubbies is promoting a gay lifestyle. THe only difference is this time it's witchcraft, but that makes it no less ludicrous.

posted by tigerprincess on July 20, 2005 at 9:12 PM | link to this | reply

kooka
You are right about literacy and the imagination. The pope's fear is well-rooted, however, in the history and dogma of the Catholic church. The real problem is not any silly witchcraft stories, but knowledge of the occult. See, before a person can handle knowledge of the occult, which is dangerous, unnecessary and thus opposed to faith, he or she must be "wise and mature in the Catholic faith." This takes many years, like learning to be a Kung-Fu master. So giving these kids a window on the occult at their tender ages, is like prohibiting the cigarette industry from advertising their products to anyone under twenty-five. Hemlocker

posted by Hemlocker on July 20, 2005 at 2:06 PM | link to this | reply