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calebs
i didn't know, but i wrote that because Sam and i were at cross-purposes that day. i'm glad it helped. thank you.

posted by avant-garde on July 2, 2005 at 2:34 AM | link to this | reply

You had no way to know
how much I needed to hear your message today.  Thanks for letting yourself be used by God for His purposes to reach imperfect fathers like me.

posted by calebs_blogger on July 1, 2005 at 6:54 PM | link to this | reply

mystic
it's a little harder for me, for i have a tendency to be bossy. i have to train myself early on to let them figure things out for themselves.

posted by avant-garde on July 1, 2005 at 12:50 PM | link to this | reply

Avant

I am constantly aware taht my children have simply come thru me to enter into life...they are not mine. they share soem genes and some traits and soem features that they picked up on teh way...but they belong to life and its longing for itself, and its expression of God. I rarely if ever give any of my children "advice", as I know that I do not know , what is their path or their lessons. Life forced me to learn that lesson early, but it served me well in keeping my fingers and my mouth out of teh affairs of my grown children. I believe in them and their goodness and I believe in their Creator who loves them .

posted by MysticGmekeepr on July 1, 2005 at 11:33 AM | link to this | reply

marshallengraved
when i read my title again, i thought, 'i do take responsibility for them (owning), but in thinking that they are 'mine', it gives me the right to do what i want through them. that can be beneficial, but at the same time it can be terribly destructive. thanks for the comment.

posted by avant-garde on July 1, 2005 at 6:12 AM | link to this | reply

you said it very well...

I have two sons....and i know how much difficult it is to let them make their own choices (and mistakes) and not to consider them as my property.

 

Thanks for always helping ppl to analyze themselves through your very useful threads:)

posted by Marshallengraved on July 1, 2005 at 4:50 AM | link to this | reply

maryx
it's a huge responsibility, but you don't really realize it while you're in the middle of doing it. a lot of reflection is necessary, i think. it helps keep things in perspective. thanks for the comment.

posted by avant-garde on June 30, 2005 at 5:47 PM | link to this | reply

Avant-garde,

Raising children is not for the faint of heart. 

posted by Blanche. on June 30, 2005 at 4:05 PM | link to this | reply

ciel
you're right about being afraid of being killed. my grandmother placed my mom in a closet for punishment, and told her the mailman carried bad kids in his bag on his shoulder. my sister used the same tactics on her kids, declaring a local skating rink a 'bad kids' house'. they were terrified of it! thanks for the great comment.

posted by avant-garde on June 30, 2005 at 3:19 PM | link to this | reply

This is a lovely statement to share with your children!

In exploring my own deep beliefs about How Things Work, I found that I carried one ntion not uncommon in our Euro-based culture,  itself based in Roman cultural belief systems.  I discovered that I believed that my father/ pater familia could kill me at will, and that, if I misbehaved, he would...  and if the neighbors complained about me, he was practically obligated to kill me!  Of course at the time, all I felt was that I was afraid of him and his judgement of me.

I think I believed it because he, deep down, believed it as a child.  I know he found it very useful that I believed it. Very convenient. 

I did not pass it along to my children.  Anyone can tell!  I may alarm them from time to time, but I don't scare them!

posted by Ciel on June 30, 2005 at 2:47 PM | link to this | reply