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mary_x
Absolutely! How can there be any innocense....there is absolutely no self-censorship in the media. I'm sorry but the fashion magazines have gone out of control with the ads....sexual connotations and innuendos to everything. Sex is shoved down kids' throats...parents have to be on 24/7 patrol to protect and put forth their own agendas...it's unrealistic to hope to; nor, in my opinion, should they because that's not the reality of the world the kids live in..but it is sad.
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Krisles
on July 2, 2005 at 12:09 AM
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I don't know. It seems as though there's no innocence anymore or protection for innocence. Kids are too worldly too soon. That's wrong, they shouldn't have to feel that to feel loved they need to be going that route.
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Blanche.
on July 2, 2005 at 12:03 AM
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mary_x
It really does seem that the more things change the more they stay the same...just with the ante upped. I keep thinking the pendelum will swing back to a more romantic, softer time...and keep hoping...thanks for your comments..
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Krisles
on July 1, 2005 at 10:10 PM
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fwmystic
As if any female with an ounce of sense would ever believe you!!!! I sure hope your daughters haven't had to deal with too many younger versions buckeroo!! Like I tell my son-in-law as he wrings his hands and looks at his two little lookers (soon to be three )...it's all comin' home to roost..it's all comin' home to roost....
posted by
Krisles
on July 1, 2005 at 10:00 PM
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Did I say I loved you last night?
If I did, it was just to get sex. I really didn't mean it.
posted by
fwmystic
on July 1, 2005 at 9:09 PM
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Krisles,
I know from having teenage friends that the pressure to be freaky and wild, is enormous. For girls to experiment with other girls, threesomes, etc. It hurts my heart, because as you say, while there's all this pressure and wanting to believe the hype, the reality is what the boys say between themselves, and the crude things they say about the girls.
So much of it is supposed "equality", wanting to be "like the guys", but the reality is that women's sexuality isn't liike men's, at least most of ours isn't. Belching, talking smack, doesn't make the guys like a girl any better. I've heard guys talking about women, and they have a pretty sophisticated radar system for what she's about, who she thinks she is, whether she'll put out, or not, whether they'd date her or just do her and dump her, whether she's real or sadly enough, what kind of emotional issues she has that they can use to hook her and then dump her.
A lot of immature women want male conquests, it's an almost irresistible phase and pressure, put on us, to want to be the femme fatale to prove ourselves, but it's more about getting the attention than actually putting out, so men get mad about teasing, but really if girls give it up, then they're immediately thought a ho, it's like there is a switch: who wants who more in this relationship, I could have had you, but the instant you say you want me, I don't want you anymore, I'm off to the next conquest to prove my "sex appeal".
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Blanche.
on July 1, 2005 at 10:51 AM
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offbeatpub
I think the big difference now is that society supported at least the appearance of some control and self-discipline...and supported parents in raising kids who for the most part gave at least the appearance of respect for themselves and others. And that is just not there so much now when you look at tv and movies and such. It amazes me how many great kids there are out there and my hats off to all the parents that are able to pull it off in spite of all this crap because it has to be the hardest thing in the world...I just see it getting harder, and harder...
posted by
Krisles
on June 30, 2005 at 4:35 PM
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KRIS
I worry about this generation. I guess no more than my parents worried about mine. Everything is so "real time" and " fell in love at first site" or "it won't happen to me".. There is little wonder little girls can not be little for long!
BTW~~~~~~~I LOVE THAT SONG!
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Offy
on June 30, 2005 at 3:04 PM
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FactorFiction
We could have a rant party....I get on my soapbox and have a hard time getting off...and then I pack it up. They are tryin' to fill holes just like anyone does when they do something that is hurtful to their self-esteem but that seems to feel good at the time....well, I say that but I just can't imagine that these activities feel that good. Dr. Phil was pretty rough on them in painting the picture back to them of what it really looked like from the outside because they had come on the show holding on so tight to themselves and their moms to their image of how ok what they were doing was.
posted by
Krisles
on June 30, 2005 at 2:58 PM
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I really gets me aggravated to hear some of the
crap that girls will do these days. I have heard other stories similar to that train deal and it is just revolting. What the hell is wrong with these girls? Do they honestly expect anyone will respect them afterwards? If they begin by thinking of themselves as just an object to be used as others see fit, where will they be in a few years? Hell, the boys should have a little respect for themselves too. How studly is it to be able to get what all of the other guys can get too?
Okay done ranting for now...
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FactorFiction
on June 30, 2005 at 2:05 PM
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strat
I think they are more than occasional...still amazes me in this day and age! And, of course, that is still usually the female's responsibility...I do have to say...and I'm not being flip when I say this...that since the doctor put me on testosterone cream therapy, I really do have a little bit better insight into those litte meat poles...it is really powerful stuff! Of course, continuation of the species and all that...... I wrote somewhere, it is just terrifying to me because my granddaughter came out of the chute looking like Angelina Jolie and men have been commenting on how beautiful she is since she was 3yrs old....and she's already picked up a lot of sexually suggestive little moves and expressions from Brittany and gang.....makes me shudder!!
posted by
Krisles
on June 30, 2005 at 10:02 AM
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You're right. It never stops.
And it's apparent to me that a lot of bad karma gets made, along with the occasional unplanned for baby.
posted by
strat
on June 30, 2005 at 7:26 AM
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mmm_w
OK - it's got some of the same stuff in about the Dr. Phil show but also different...it's in my R&S blog on pg 3 dated 5/19 -sorry, I haven't ever figured out how to do links!
posted by
Krisles
on June 30, 2005 at 6:40 AM
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mmm_w
Thanks!...and, no...it never stops....I'll have to find it...I get so dang turned around in my blogs! I'll let you know; it was soon after I started posting....oops! just saw I didn't name this one...I need to try to sleep!!!errrrr....
posted by
Krisles
on June 30, 2005 at 6:20 AM
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great post....
how true.... but it doesn't stop there. not really..... it was a well written post. how far back is your madanno/whore post? i am intrigued.... was it on this blog?
posted by
mmm-w
on June 30, 2005 at 5:45 AM
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