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jethro
I know you have issue with the english language, but 'Extreme dislike' is another way to say 'hate'. There is a book called a 'dictionary'. Pick one up some time and learn english.
And I already dealt with another good old Christians blogger here who was just as confused as you as to what racism is. First off, the muslims are as much of a racial group as the Jews are. It is a case in which the religious title and the race title have more or less merged, even though it is not fully accurate, in this case due the the simple fact of what a 'race' is (A group of people with common ancestry) it is fully and perfectly accurate to call it racism. Even beyond that simple fact though, there is the level at which showing blind and unjustified hatred for all of a religion is no different than racism, and so at that level even the term itself is still valid for this example. It is the same attitude needed and is no more justifiable.
Although I am at a lose as to how that would justify hatred towards such a group anyway.
Every time you try to leave me a comment you show yourself to be a greatly confused person.
posted by
kooka_lives
on June 27, 2005 at 3:40 PM
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Love it love it love it.
I never said "hatred" big guy. A "hatred" of Muslim's would also not be considered "racism" either there. Muslims are a religious group not a race. Keep trying, someday.....
posted by
jethro
on June 26, 2005 at 7:38 PM
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Jethro
I keep thinking I have heard really stupid remarks, but you always seem to be able to come up with the dumbest of comments somehow.
Muslim, like all religions is flawed due to the basic need for religion to have blind and unquestioning devotion. I have no hatred or 'extreme dislike' for them just as I have no hatred for any religion. As always there is no logic at all in what you say. Yes, I greatly disagree with the idea of putting their holy book as more important than the people, but I am lost as to why you think that would create hatred. Is it that easy for you to hate in such a blind and generalized manner? Such ideas of hatreds are commonly referred to as racism. Just because I disagree with them and think they are wrong does not mean I have any ill feelings towards them. It very much does not mean I have anything in common with Christians or the flawed ideas and thinking of that group of beliefs.
As for Kennedy, big deal. I keep trying to explain I think the democrats are the same as the republicans, expect the democrats are almost on the right path. I have been labels a liberal and from what I have seen that is as accurate as it gets since we seem to have very few categories for political thinking. Although I can not help but wonder just what you think the democrats are trying to distract us from. It is the republicans who are making royal mess of things right now, and would like for the population to not be paying attention to it all. The democrats most likely want us fully alert as to with is going on since they can only gain by us paying attention to Bush and his band of merry idiots screwing everything up.
posted by
kooka_lives
on June 25, 2005 at 3:03 PM
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"At no point ever should an inanimate object, a soulless piece of cloth, a manufactured item, ever be given more rights than a living, breathing person." - No, actually you would only have a point if the punishment were burning that "living, breathing person". I trust this etches in stone your extreme dislike of the Muslim faith wherein the manufactured item known as the Koran is literally given more rights than a living breathing person. I also trust that this means, although you are not religious, that you are admitting to a practical advantage held by Christianity. It's about time.
This is unlikely to pass in the senate, but speaking of distracting from the issues did you like Kennedy's sideshow the other day calling for Rumsfield to step down? How many people have done that before? Come on now.
posted by
jethro
on June 24, 2005 at 9:10 PM
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billy cargo
Actually if you do some research you will see that a man was being harassed by law enforcement for hanging the flag upside down in such many a few years back to show that the country was in trouble. I think it was even here in Colorado, I would have to find that article again.
In the end it does not matter what personal feelings you have or the emotion you feel over seeing the flag burned. For although I feel the idea is misguided and that there are better ways to protest, it really does not affect me any. I do not see the flag in general as being very important. it is just a piece of cloth. The problem is that too many people put their full patriotism into the flag, as if that was true patriotism. They ignore the ideas of freedom and justice, and are more than willing to give this piece of cloth rights above the people, which is purely anti-American.
Of course we also need to look at the simple fact that flag burning is NOT a big issue right now. It is just not happening, and so it really is about distracting us from the real issues.
Congress is showing they do not care about freedom and such, or about working on the real needs of the country. This is purely politically motivated and is serving no good at all. And once more we are seeing congress take away our freedoms right under our noises and it would seem the majority of america is more than ready to just let them get away with it.
posted by
kooka_lives
on June 24, 2005 at 7:14 AM
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kooka - maybe people who love their country but are oppossed to the
current admin's policies could make a better statement buy flying the flag upside down. Thats a symbol for distress and protest...I see burning as symbolizing hatred for the U.S. When we accidentally drop a bomb on a village and kill lots of children and all the villagers burn the U.S. flag they do it out of hate. Many many people in the world should hate us for rash dicisions made by our often non-representative leaders but any American who hates America enough to burn the flag should leave. My point - I don't like frivolous amedments but burning a flag is a stronger statement than many would be flag burners realize.
posted by
FreeManWalking
on June 23, 2005 at 9:16 PM
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Kooka Lives,
Let us start a everybody or anybody but the incumbent movement in America! Unless of course the opponent is lower on the evolutionary chart than the office holder. We have to devise a test to make sure we are at least getting better humanity!
Can't hurt??
posted by
Glennb
on June 23, 2005 at 8:03 PM
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Kooka Lives,
The problem: We have media, that blares insignificant messages on a daily basis 24/7 (I loath media jargon). Who says "flag burning" is a pressing (burning) issue with Americans? It is as you say such an innocuous form of protest and free speech that banning "flag burning" sort of cheapens the Constitution to frivolous.
I would like to see 100 percent turnover in the Congress and Senate (one third) in the coming elections! Every incumbent voted out of Office. There has to be Statesmanship somewhere in America! Now that would be the ultimate exercise of the Greatest Constitution in the History of Humankind!
Great Post!
posted by
Glennb
on June 23, 2005 at 7:55 PM
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Good point! I think it immature to burn flags to make a point, but like
you said, to take that right away goes against what the flag represents. Go figure.
posted by
Ariala
on June 23, 2005 at 11:36 AM
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