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to me
it is more evidence of a spiritual antagonist and enemy. Satan.
Jesus said A house divided against itself cannot stand.
posted by
fieryloins
on December 2, 2005 at 10:20 AM
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thank you zenlady
actually i'm not angry -- just trying to make a point.
and your points -- i don't need to say i agree with them in order for them to be most valid.
honest seekers of Truth find the vlaidity in such
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 27, 2005 at 6:06 AM
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You sound angry...
You might want to pick up the book titled Doubt: A History by Jennifer Hecht. You will find that we "doubters" are among an extremely elite group such as Socrates, Confucus and Einstein (to name a few).
Einstein was asked many times if he believed in God. He finally answered "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings".
We need to step back, not concern ourself with orgainized religious dogma and simply consider the idea that we are ALL guided by UNIVERSAL MORAL PRINCIPLES which are the basis of ALL the great world religions.
Peace.
Zoe
posted by
ZenLady05
on June 25, 2005 at 6:08 PM
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we can concentrate on this life and let the next take care of itself.
yes. that is wise and how to stay at the helm of the ship, and not lose your way.
posted by
calmcantey75
on June 21, 2005 at 8:18 AM
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and cantey
thanks for all definitions
i think i know what you're getting at
it underscores what i'm saying.
actually it's good we really don't know
we can concentrate on this life and let the next take care of itself.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 21, 2005 at 5:53 AM
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cantey
the good news magazine is published by the church i came out of.
i remember that.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 21, 2005 at 5:52 AM
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EHP, take your pick
Definitions of heaven on the Web:
- eden: any place of complete bliss and delight and peace
- the abode of God and the angels
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn2.1 - Heaven is a 2002 motion picture that tells the story of an English woman who makes a bomb attack and a young police officer who helps her to escape. The film stars Cate Blanchett, Giovanni Ribisi and more, and was directed by Tom Tykwer. The screenplay was co-written by Krzysztof Kieslowski and Krzysztof Piesiewicz; Kieslowski intended to direct it as part of a planned trilogy, but died before he could begin the project.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_(movie) - The heavens are the sky, the celestial sphere, or outer space. Indeed, sky is the original meaning of the word ''''.----
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven - (1.) Definitions. The phrase "heaven and earth" is used to indicate the whole universe (Gen. 1:1; Jer. 23:24; Acts 17:24). According to the Jewish notion there were three heavens,
christianity.about.com/library/weekly/blT0001700.htm - Heaven is slang for cocaine.
www.fas.org/news/reference/probert/PA.HTM - The abode of God, the angels and the spirits of the righteous after death; the place of existence of the blessed after mortal life.
www.leftfield-psi.net/glossary/glossary_h.html - Eternal life with God; communion of life and love with the Trinity and all the blessed. Heaven is the state of supreme and definitive happiness, the goal of the deepest longings of humanity.
www.thesacredheart.com/dictnary.htm - the abode of the gods, the place where the characters live and interact
enigma.cs.ucla.edu/games/gods/20/glos.htm - A symbol of the dimension between the material plane and the Celestial Realms. Also known as the Kingdom of God, Divine Sheath, White Cloud and Heaven Plane.
www.templechryses.org/h-l.html - The Bible speaks of three heavens: (1) the atmosphere surrounding earth, that is, the sky (Acts 1:9-11); (2) space, including our solar system and the observable stars and galaxies (Genesis 1:14-18; Psalm 8:3); and (3) the location of God's throne, from where He governs the entire universe, called "the third heaven" (2 Corinthians 12:2). Solomon said: "God is in heaven and you are on earth" (Ecclesiastes 5:2). In the Bible, the context usually tells us which of the three "heavens" is being discussed.
www.goodnewsmag.ca/lit/BC/03/glossary.asp - Existing on a higher plane from Earth, Heaven is the home of the Christian/Hebrew God as well as that of His angels. In addition, Heaven is the place where good souls go when they die (or at least those who follow the Christian or Hebrew faiths) No one on Earth knows for sure what Heaven is like except for those angels who are on Earth, and even if an angel on Earth tried to describe Heaven, the words would be wholly insufficient to describe the reality of Heaven.
www.globalguardians.com/encyclopedia/encyclopediagh.php - Heaven is the dwelling place of God and for those who go there a place of everlasting bliss. Scripture implies three heavens, since "the third heaven" is revealed to exist (2 Cor. 12:2). It is logical that a third heaven cannot exist without a first and second. Scripture does not describe specifically the first and second heaven. The first, however, apparently refers to the atmospheric heavens of the fowl (Hos. 2:18) and clouds (Dan. 7:13). The second heaven may be the area of the stars and planets (Gen. 1:14-18). It is the abode of all
www.truth66.org/truth/dictionary.html - The place beyond the earth that is the living place of God. In Christianity, it is the future eternal home of those who receive salvation in Christ.
www.scu.edu/pm/resources/theoglossary/print.html - A harmonious state of being.
www.global.org/Pub/Holmes_15_Glossary.asp - is also a gay nightclub in New York.
www.knowlex.org/lang/en/lexikon/Heaven.html - 1 : the expanse of space that seems to be over the earth like a dome : FIRMAMENT -- usually used in plural 2 a often capitalized : the dwelling place of the Deity and the joyful abode of the blessed dead b : a spiritual state of everlasting communion with God 3 : capitalized : GOD: the supreme or ultimate reality 4 : a place or condition of utmost happiness Etymology: Middle English heven, from Old English heofon; akin to Old High German himil heaven. Date: before 12th century
coy.ne.client2.attbi.com/RR-Vocabulary.html - Three levels: celestial the highest; the terrestrial the middle and the telestial being the lowest of the three.
www.christiandefense.org/mor_define.htm - 2. Among Christians, the part of space in which the omnipresent Jehovah is supposed to afford more sensible manifestations of His glory. Hence this is called the habitation of God, and is represented as the residence of angels and blessed spirits. Deut. xxvi. The sanctified heart loves heaven for its purity, and God for His goodness. -Buckminster. 7. The Supreme Power; the Sovereign of heaven; God; as prophets sent by heaven. I have sinned against heaven. -Luke xv Shun the impious profaneness which scoffs at the institutions of heaven. -Dwight.
www.angelfire.com/ok3/eache/washingtondef.html - The eternal state of peace where the Father and the Son abide as One, and sing an eternal song of thanks and gratitude for their changeless love. Thoughts of a guilty past and similar future exist not in this timeless state.
www.jesuschristloves.us/glossary.htm
posted by
calmcantey75
on June 20, 2005 at 5:57 PM
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