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Talion -- I thought you would get a chuckle out of that
I can imagine that once you let your agnosticism out of the bag you have heard the old damnation chestnuts as many times as I have.

posted by gomedome on June 9, 2005 at 8:23 AM | link to this | reply

gomedome
Imagine if a scenario like that actually happened. I'd love to see the looks on some people's faces. Only the presence og God Himself would stop me from singing, Nyah-nyah-ni-nyah-nyah... 

posted by Talion on June 9, 2005 at 8:16 AM | link to this | reply

thanks for your comments, Gome
I think Blogit actually has some value, because ever since I have been coming here I have learned much about others beliefs and views, and that itself is sharpening my intelligence in interacing in all circles and clusters of real world humanity as far as connecting with them and increasing potential of constructive exchange.

posted by calmcantey75 on June 8, 2005 at 5:55 PM | link to this | reply

cantey_1975 -- There was no offence taken
One works on the assumption that a person practices a particular faith as a means of preparing themselves for the hereafter. That is after all what the industry of religion was built on. It is also assumed by the vast majority that those who do not practice a particular religion and certainly those who do not believe in God are not preparing themselves for the hereafter.  How absurd. The willingness of people to believe this in absolute and unquestioning terms is exactly why we have people running around on this planet ruining the here and now for some elusive promise of eternal bliss.

posted by gomedome on June 8, 2005 at 5:47 PM | link to this | reply

Good. I am glad you are confident
I am really trying hard not to offend you, bacause that is not my intention. I guess my speech is so laden with a peculiar faith that it cant help but be offensive to some.

posted by calmcantey75 on June 8, 2005 at 5:38 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde -- I got the wacko version of Christianity growing up
Stigmata, exorcism, limbo, purgatory, the whole nine yards. I'm of course speaking of the Roman Catholic church. Living proof that the earlier in history a religion is started the further it gets away from anything remotely resembling sanity.

posted by gomedome on June 8, 2005 at 5:37 PM | link to this | reply

cantey_1975 -- You say you have faith that you are going to heaven
Could you possibly understand that if this heaven that your faith describes exists that I have every expectation that I'll be seeing you there? Without a drop of sarcasm or condescention, if this mythical place does exist then I am as good a candidate to go there as anyone who walks on this planet, save the few saints amongst us. How can I say such a thing? It's the living with honour and exemplifying decency, not the memorizing of a book or asquiescing to any religious institution's demands.  Do you really think that your God gives a flying fig that I doubt his existence?  Now the last part of your comment is intriguing...I smell a post brewing.  

posted by gomedome on June 8, 2005 at 5:33 PM | link to this | reply

I dont know if you are going to heaven Gome

or anybody else for that matter. I have prettty solid faith I am going, but I would definantly try to avoid the trap of playing judge of another humans destiny.

I know you are Agnostic. What are your thoughts on " Heaven?" Do you think it might be a literal place?

posted by calmcantey75 on June 8, 2005 at 4:35 PM | link to this | reply

gomer
i was taught that theology, too, and it made absolutely no sense to me, either. i accepted it when i was little out of fear. now i see that fear is not real, and projection creates the world as we see ourselves. therefore, heaven is an awakening of all that is real. i enjoyed reading.

posted by avant-garde on June 8, 2005 at 12:34 PM | link to this | reply