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I have heard the likes of these statements from
Chris Rock and Bill Cosby.  I was damn proud of them for sprinkling a bit of logic thought on the scene.  So who are you really?  I thought I was mysterious.

posted by mysteria on May 12, 2005 at 9:44 AM | link to this | reply

Glennb, true. But as you are well aware, this world is an imperfect place.

And that is why everybody, including ourselves, are always fucking up. I guess you could say it all started in the Garden of Eden.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 5:55 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
Makes you wonder if we (humanity) should be more selective about who we decide to go into battle for? Rodney King was a poor choice!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 5:49 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, to answer your question concerning King's monetary reward and his
failure to do anything with to help advance the cause of "his community" -- that didn't happen because the brother was, and continues to be, nothing but a petit criminal and weak loser who lacks the self-restraint to keep himself "clean."

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 5:45 PM | link to this | reply

JJ Wilde,
I agree. It is the fear of voicing our views on Race that has everyone uptight! I think we have a choice of being either ignorant or racist. But not both!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 5:42 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, you're right. And that's why I said if I had been on that L.A.
freeway that night, I would have beat the hell out of Rodney King myself.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 5:41 PM | link to this | reply

JJ Wilde, thank you for commenting. & what you wrote reminds me of a saying
that I came up with a number of years ago: Show me a white liberal who believes that blacks should always be treated with sensitivity, compassion and tolerance, and I will show you a true white racist.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 5:39 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
In that regard you are correct! But let the citizenry take charge and become lawless. Not the police!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 5:38 PM | link to this | reply

MHW,

It is good to see your views.  Somehow people don't seem to understand that racism, bigotry, whatever you want to call it, is not conquered at a place on a map.  It is conquered in one's own mind, with reason and compassion.  Ranting and raving on the subject often proves nothing more than the subconscious racism of the ranter or raver.

Projection is the problem.  ''I'm not a racist, everyone else is.''  That leads to nothing more than further racism of the subconscious variety.  Many people that I know are fussy, even when no other is present, about the words that are used in a conversation.  If you use an improper word, they label you a racist thinker.  I can only laugh at their hypersensitivity in the racial area.  To me, that sufficiently proves that they are the racist whom they fear.

Racism, however, being as subconscious as it is, does need to be struggled against.  The struggle must be done in a much different way than most consider effective.  It requires a good deal of thought and a new approach.  Old approaches have never worked.      JJ

posted by Jack_Flash on May 11, 2005 at 5:31 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
After all the carnage and strife from the criminal acquittal. How do you explain that after he recieved the monetary award for the beating he still brought nothing to the struggle or the community?

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 5:31 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, all of my relatives and many of my loved ones live in L.A. So by
driving under the influence and leading the cops in an 8-mile-long high-speed chase, he could have caused the death of someone close to me. And that is why I feel no sympathy for King. And one more thing: Why didn't the cops lay a glove on the two brothers who were rollin' with him that night? Is it because opposite of what King did, neither of those two attempted to resist arrest?

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 5:29 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
Tough love! I can accept that! And Rodney King should have been arrested, but not beaten!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 5:22 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, I think I know where you're coming from. It is just that due to the
fact that I did not have a choice over ending up "here," I am determined to deal with it as best as I know how. I might be totally wrong in my approach and in the ways in which I view things, but my heart is in the right place. I am just trying to do my part to help those who are wallowing in self-pity and who are suffering from other illnesses caused by centuries of cruel, unjust and inhumane treatment to lift themselves up.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 5:17 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
We've been "home" away from home a long time! But still not welcomed! Trust me it is ok! I just think it needs to be reconciled that we made the journey and thrived in the process!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 5:08 PM | link to this | reply

OffBeatPub, thank you very much. Glad you dropped by.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 4:56 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, I hated every moment of it. Fightin' in a war ain't no fun. But I
have no regrets. I am glad I served and even though you don't seem to be pleased with your service, I still say, "Welcome home, brother."

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 4:54 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
So do I! I "volunteered" in 1967! I missed "Tet Offensive" like most, but the guys that lived it! I did my duty and came home! The rest is part of the public record! Did not enjoy it then and I am not comfortable with it now!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 4:51 PM | link to this | reply

MHW
Good post, just following the banter..

posted by Offy on May 11, 2005 at 4:48 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, the only reason I brought it up is, I have a special place in my
heart for all who have done their time in the military. It's just a thing with me, because being a soldier was about one of the best things that ever happened to me. Ironcally, going to war saved my life. If I had not been drafted back in 1965, today, I would probably be doing life in San Quentin. 

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 4:40 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
My Armr career was a 10 1/2 year blurrr! Believe me I just mentioned it in passing! No need to bring it up again!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 4:34 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, all bullshit aside, you mentioned that you served under George S.

Patton. Which of his commands did you serve in? The 11th Armored Cav in Vietnam, or the 2nd Armored Division in Fort Hood?

The reason I ask is, when I was in Vietnam, my unit, the 2nd Bn., 39th Infantry Regiment of the 9th Infantry Division was TDY to the 11th Armored Cav, for about two months during the infamous 1968 Tet Offensive -- and for that brief period, Patton (who was a full bird colonel at the time) was my CO.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 4:03 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
Not impressed! But stay on the case, there is hope!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:53 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, I'm as crazy as hell. & I like being that way. It makes me special.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:50 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,

Do you comprehend what you read? You are walking a tightrope between lunacy and incoherence! I hope you make it!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:48 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, I've done time before. I could deal with it.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:45 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, every black man, woman & child in America has been "scarred"
by the "black experience in America." If you are black, and do not realize that you have been "scarred" like all of the rest of us have, then you are not nearly as "blessed" as you think you are. You are merely unaware of just how ill you really are. 

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:43 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
There is no doubt! But you would be in jail! "Brother"!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:39 PM | link to this | reply

Gleenb, "my race" didn't bring me to where I am today. My Mama and Papa did

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:37 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, FYI, if I had been on the scene that night, I would've helped
those cops beat the hell out of Rodney King. And stay tuned, dude, because pretty soon, I'm going to write a post about that incident. The headline will be, "RODNEY KING DESERVED TO BE BEATEN THE WAY HE WAS."

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:34 PM | link to this | reply

i'd love to
read them!!!

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 3:32 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Handed Painter, one more thing. In the near future, I will be submit-
ting some posts about my days as a youth in L.A.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:29 PM | link to this | reply

Fwmystic,
Anger is self-destruction not self-preservation. I write to inform not enlighten. I have too much to be thankful for to be angry! There are many who have been scarred from the ravages of "Racism" in America and the Planet! I have been Blessed!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:29 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Handed Painter, I would really enjoy telling you about my experiences
in 1950s and 1960s Los Angeles. It was a great place to grow up in. And hell yeah, I love the Rams. Even if the teams moves to Jupiter someday, I will still be one of its staunchest fans.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:27 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Handed Painter, "my world" is almost totally black. I do not hang out
with very many whites and I do not work alongside any at all. And none of that is because of "institutional racial segregation or racism." It just so happens that is what "my world" is made up of.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:24 PM | link to this | reply

so you like the Rams?

must be from their time in LA?

and I see we have basically lived through the same times.

you need to tell stories about your experiences.  I would be interested in your experiences and your life and how you encountered the various happenings in the LA area -- you must be a font of information.\

I would love to be informed by  you -- by where you are coming from.  Things like that speak louder than opinions expressed.  they speak volumes about the author.

your life should be fascinating.

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 3:22 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Handed Painter,

My impression: Mightyholywarrior is a Negro wanabe! He wants to blame all of his juvenile existence on the Black Race holding him back! It is a convenient tool that keeps him in his lost world. He needs to stand up and be proud that his Race has brought him to this point in America.

 

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:21 PM | link to this | reply

FWMystic, the fact that South Africa was ruled by the white minority for
many, many years is underpinned by some complex dynamics. For one thing, the people who made up (presently make up) the population of South Africa are actually the members of 10 or 11 separate and distinct nations (or tribes) and most of them do not like each other. And due to the fact that those blacks were always at odds with one another, it made it a lot simpler for the whites to control them. In addition, the whites who used to rule that country were "armed to the teeth" and even had nuclear weapons (and I wonder where those nukes are today).

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:17 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb - do you read what you write? ...
you come off as an ANGRY young man ... not that there's anything wrong with that ...

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 3:16 PM | link to this | reply

Fwmystic,
Me??? Angry!!!! No!!! But I do like a mature dialogue. Because this PC is killing America! There are now laws to take care of the rowdy or a .357 can make up the difference!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

ok so I'm going to ask a question

not confrontationally -- but for information

would you describe your world to me?

that is, your job, your coworkers, how much contact you have with Whites, etc.

how integrated is your neighborhood?

a person's environment affects his outlook on life.

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 3:10 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Handed Painter,
Mightyholywarrior, is the "Nigger" in Negro. No matter how much you tell him he is not welcomed the harder he tries to break your door down! Just call the police and let them Rodney King em!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:08 PM | link to this | reply

he's
too smart for that

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 3:08 PM | link to this | reply

MHW - excellent point
South Africa was overwhelmingly black, yet a tiny minority controlled that country as well as Rhodesia. But since you've allowed that there is a degree of racism, I have no quarrel with you. As I said before, I am a fan of the MHW. I see where Glennb comes from and why he gets so angry. But viewpoints are equally valid.

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 3:07 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Headed Painter, then perhaps Eddie Murphy will be the first black
president of the US.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:06 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, all I can say is I am really glad I am not you -- because if were,
I would put an end to my misery.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:05 PM | link to this | reply

FWMystic, I firmly stand by what I said: The USA is Not A Racist Nation.
It is just that there are a whole lot of racist outlaws in the country, and they come in all colors, including white, black, brown, red, yellow and "mixed breed." And what in the hell do you expect. "Anglos" account for the majority in the US; therefore, they are the dominant ones here. Whose in charge in places like Nigeria, Jamaica, Trinidad-Tobago and Ghana? Is it "Anglos?" The answer is hell no, because in those places, whites are in the minority.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 3:03 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
You have your head buried so far in the sand that you won't take it out until someone pokes you in the rear (there is another word that rhymes with pass, but I do not want to get banned). You can continue to kiss "Whitey's" butt until the stench overwhelms, and your nose will still be brown underneath!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 3:03 PM | link to this | reply

Eddie Murphy

is a genius.

his comedy routines stand head and shoulders above those of any Black comedians that have followed him.

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 3:01 PM | link to this | reply

ok

the government is not racist.

i'm gonna snicker here because the Democratic Party lost the South mainly because of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society and the South's strigent opposition to giving Blacks opportunity (mid-60's admitted -- but the South is still Republican).  And you want to cruise Mimssissippi or Eastern Arkansas or Southeastern Missouri?  You'll be taken back to another Century -- you'll think you're living in another time before the Civil War.  the U.S., government is not racist -- the greatest equal opportunity employer.  many public entities have moved forward like they have wanted to all along (before the 60's, public opinion would have basically crucified them for attempting to break the racial disparity) because public attitudes have changed.

but this is just the public face.  You want to walk the neighborhoods?  You appear to be a Black person and it seems you are not in touch with the less advantaged of your race.  You want to walk the neighborhoods?  Few really do.  I'll take you through a few.  See where Blacks are still "ghettoized".

There's still a hell of a long way to go.

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 3:00 PM | link to this | reply

MHW - ya gotta admit ...
that bit was funny.

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 2:58 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Headed Painter, do you believe that Eddy Murphy is one of the great
minds of our times? It appears you do.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 2:54 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
That you never respond to a complete comment is more annoying than your insipid Posts. But do not take comfort in annoying me, I will still protest your ignorance!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 2:54 PM | link to this | reply

Empty Handed Painter, in the post, I did NOT say that racism does not exist
in the US. I simply said the US is not a racist nation. Oftentimes, the problem with people reading things is that they do not read what was actually written. They merely read into what was written -- and give it their own twists.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 2:52 PM | link to this | reply

speaking of a black president

reminds me of Eddie Murphy's rendition of Jesse Jackson's inaugural speech, where he moves around a lot and keeps ducking so as not to present an easy target.

Eddie Murphy thought a Black might be a target of an assassination.

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 2:49 PM | link to this | reply

MHW - just because we disagree don't mean you're dumb ...
I guess I just don't get it!

You write that the US is not a racist country, but you admit there's a high degree of racism. I'm not being contrary to be contrary. But when I see Anglos here in Texas claiming reverse racism when they didn't get one of the slots in one of the state's colleges, and then I read you as a black man maintaining the U.S. is not a racist country without allowing that there is a high degree of racism, I feel you're just adding fuel to the fire.

Many Anglos here in Texas feel there is NO racism except what's directed toward them. They say that they didn't own slaves themselves, so the playing field is now level.

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 2:47 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, my "putrid existence?" Wow, man. If I lived in the same tree you

live in, I would never say anything about someone else having a "putrid existence."

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 2:47 PM | link to this | reply

there is a question to be asked here

have you ever heard white folks speak about black folks.

being white, i have heard comments, read jokes, etc. that are blatantly racist.  (making the rounds at one time was a letter copied onto Missouri Conservation Dept. (they regulate hunting and fishing) that, lamenting the low population of regular game animals, declared open season on "porch monkeys".  And you want to say that's not racism?

be sure, racism is alive and well in the United States of America.

Odd that I see a lot of Blacks behind fast food counters or at low end maintenance jobs -- this is not the mark of race exclusion.

or mentioning quotas and such -- one of the opposition's responses is "They are taking our jobs." -- so you feel that Whites should oppose Blacks having the same jobs as they do?

I know things are a whole lot better than they were in fit 50's and 60's, but there is still a lot of racism out there.  All you have to do is encounter it.

posted by Xeno-x on May 11, 2005 at 2:44 PM | link to this | reply

Terp Girl -
in Texas, anyone north of the Red River on the Oklahoma border is a Yankee liberal. No offense.

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 2:40 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,
Respond to the charges or own up to your putrid existence! Do not make threats! And besides, outside of Jesse Jackson, what Black man wants the job as President of this Racist nation? Hell George Bush was elected, you can't get lower "White" trash than that! The Office has been soiled! So stop with your juvenile assumptions about "Race" in America.

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 2:39 PM | link to this | reply

MHW

AMEN!

I don't know if it's because we're writers, but I'm always baffled when other people don't recognize the trial balloon thing. 

Strangers who walk into dinner with my family and friends have told me they thought we were arguing.  We weren't.  We take all sorts of things going on in the world and bat the idea back and forth.  Even when my best friend and I agree, we make it a point to take the opposite side just to see what sort of arguments, reasoning is made. 

That's how you learn things.  That's how get a bead on how the other half thinks (whatever your version of the other half is.)  Even if I'd consider that other half the enemy looking to do me harm, I want to know how that person is seeing it.  I'd rather have the bullet coming straight at me, between the eyes, instead of at my back.

posted by terpgirl30 on May 11, 2005 at 2:35 PM | link to this | reply

Talion, you're very welcome. And I could have said a lot more. You are a

a real man, in my book.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 2:34 PM | link to this | reply

The one you addressed to me, that is.

posted by Talion on May 11, 2005 at 2:33 PM | link to this | reply

mightyholywarrior
I sincerely thank you for that comment.

posted by Talion on May 11, 2005 at 2:32 PM | link to this | reply

Glennb, one of these days, somebody is gonna drop a dime on you and

you will be banned from Blogit in no time.

I strongly recommend that you stop hurling insults at me and others on the network.

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 2:24 PM | link to this | reply

FWMystic, McNabb, McNair, Culpepper, Vick & about 3 or 4 other black dudes

are starting quarterbacks in the NFL. And Division I of NCAA football is brimming over with starting black quarterbacks. And because of that, I predict that in about five years, blacks will account for the majority of starting quarterbacks in the NFL.

And so far as a black being elected as president; how in the hell do you know whether one be assassinated or not. Are you a fortune teller of something. And so far as that goes, I'll bet every possession I own that numerous assassination plots have been thwarted that we, the public will never know about, and that involved plans to murder presidents Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Clinton and George W. Bush.

Finally, in my post, I said that the US is not a racist nation. I did not imply that there is not a high degree of racism in America.

What were you trying to say in your comment: That I'm too dumb and naive to realize that there is plenty of racism in this country?

The problem with being contrary for the sake of being contrary is that you often miss out on opportunities to broaden your scope. 

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 2:14 PM | link to this | reply

Mystic

You're making a bit of a blanket statement, and I'm always taken aback when someone says that about me.  You have no idea what my political affiliation is.  In Baltimore, a Republican is a Democrat who doesn't believe in Unions.  As a journalist, it has been drummed into my head that "journalists are not joiners."  I've voted each way about the same amount of times.  It has depended on the person and the world situation.

Everyone thinks his area is the worst in this or that.  Baltimore is one of the worst murder spots, and it's mainly Black on Black violence in the heart of the City.  You (human you,  not you personally.) see what is before you and don't have an idea what I'm seeing. That's human nature.  What is the *worst* stuff going on depends not only on your geographic seat, but also on the eyes you are looking at it from. I see gender issues you won't see.  They've never affected you.

posted by terpgirl30 on May 11, 2005 at 2:12 PM | link to this | reply

Terpgirl30
I did not say all "racist" are stupid! He won't take a chance on getting his ass kicked or killed if he can help it!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 1:59 PM | link to this | reply

TerpGirl30 - excellent point - but of course you're an East Coast liberal
In red-meat Texas, race matters.

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 1:37 PM | link to this | reply

Mystic

We've been debating the Black president thing in a political group I'm in. I agree with you, but for different reasons than you've given.  Those who may feel *x* is best for the job, may not vote for him/her for other reasons.  I don't know that I would have voted for Colin Powell even though I think the man is incredibly able in the area of getting people to work together.  I wouldn't have voted for him, because I, too, worry about the stray lunatic who always seems to get a front seat close enough to pull a gun.  That's a lot of sacrifice to ask of someone.  And do I want to play a role in that?  I know that's stretching it, but it is in my mind.

You have to follow that train of thought.  John Kennedy was the only Catholic president.  It didn't work out well for him either. Ted could never be elected, not because he's Catholic, but because he's Ted.  A majority will always look to its own.  I think Hillary running would destroy and splinter the Democratic party.  You'd have idealistic types who will say, "Well, it's about time."  Maybe so, but it doesn't mean it will play out in Peoria. 

As for cities and the like, I'm in Baltimore.  Maryland has always had a pretty strong mixed bag of politicians, so I can't speak to that as much.  It's always been a non issue around here.

To sports, no there aren't many Black quarterbacks, or hockey players.  It's pretty obvious but the NBA says race doesn't mean much in this field. I don't think the country is racist because when I go to a basketball game, I'm watching Black faces for the most part.  And the players don't seem to mind that most of the people watching them are White.  These people are out to make money. It's a job.  Once we jumped over the Jackie Robinson thing, that boundary started to shift.  Once it did, and the owners saw they could make a whole lot more money, not surprisingly, they were accepting.  And, again, it runs both ways.  My son was on an all-Black football team.  The coaches were incredible.  The kids, very young, spouted stuff they got at home.  It was tough on my son---but I don't take it as a reflection of all people.  There were too many who were good to him.

Hollywood?  Well, no there aren't many roles for Black actors.  There aren't many for middle-aged white women either.  I explored writing for the industry.  What I found was that guys would be accepted forever.  A white woman writing in Hollywood outlives her usefulness by age 30 or so.  But there are always exceptions.  And does that mean you shouldn't still push for that boundary to shift?  Actors in general are finding that to be in a good movie they have to commission someone to write a script with them in mind.  Then they have to finance the production of it.  As more Blacks come into the field, and this finance-your-career atmosphere continues, we'll start to see more projects that involve Blacks.  Think of that woman who is listed as the most people woman in the world, the actress from India.  How many people here have seen any of her work? 

Kim

 

posted by terpgirl30 on May 11, 2005 at 1:22 PM | link to this | reply

Koreans are another race

Glenn,

When you say America is racist, and that's why soldiers are in Iraq and not in Korea, it purely doesn't sense from a logistical point.  Both groups are a different race, so if it's about race, it wouldn't matter which one. There's much more to it, and it's simplistic to think otherwise.  That China wouldn't tolerate it is an entirely different issue, and a decent point.  So, if you think it's wrong and it's about the fear of a stronger power, that makes sense.  Yellow or brown?  A true racist doesn't care.

I don't know anyone of any race who hasn't experienced racism. And that includes every person from every background.  I have a prejudice against "new money" people.  I've had nasty experiences, like anyone else.  I've had terrible experiences with people of other races.  Not all of it sticks, nor should it.  That's a personal decision, and I chose early on not to take one person's actions as a reflection of everyone who looks like the person who has injured me.  So, I'll agree with you that there is racism---that runs in many directions, not to one group from one group...but not that this is a racist country. 

posted by terpgirl30 on May 11, 2005 at 12:58 PM | link to this | reply

Mightyholywarrior,

It took you a day to ponder with your "pea" brain to come up with this dribble of non-sense. Of course America is a "very" racist nation! Look at the direction it took in Iraq! Why did Bush invade a defenseless country (he thought)? Why not North Korea?

I will tell you why. Because the Chinese would not watch them ravage another Asian Culture!

But the Brown Race continues to bow down to his Master and wait for his next turn.

Ten minutes without this buffoon in office and watch your "Uncle Tom Oreo" ass change his tune! You could care less as long as "Whitey" controls everything!

posted by Glennb on May 11, 2005 at 10:41 AM | link to this | reply

Excellent comment, Talion ...
but MHW, I pose this question to you: Would white Americans support a black man (or woman) as... no, not president; how about suburban mayor, sheriff, chief of police, judge, chief surgeon, or general manager of a professional athletic team, etc? Shoot, how many black quarterbacks are there?

I don't think America would support a black man president, and if one was elected, how long before some racist would try to take him out?

posted by fwmystic on May 11, 2005 at 10:21 AM | link to this | reply

Talion, the more I get to know you, the more I respect and admire you. You

are very deep, intelligent young man.

And because there is a large and growing number of progressive, liberated young black people like yourself coming along, I am optimistic about the future.   

posted by Feenix on May 11, 2005 at 10:02 AM | link to this | reply

mightyholywarrior
Is America a racist nation? Of course not. Countries aren't racist, people are. Are there racist Americans? Unfortunately, there are, and they're not only the stereotypical overalls-wearing, tobacco-chewing, Confedrate flag-waving, white-sheet-wearing rednecks of the deep south, but white collar suburbanites found in every city and every state. We've progressed to a point where it's no longer fashionable to hold such extreme views and those who are foolish enough to loudly proclaim such a stance will find his/her ass kicked, sued, or both, but we should not be complacent and believe such attitudes no longer exist. The best thing about society today, despite its imperfections, is our wider options. Because society as a whole isn't racist in the strictest definition of the word, minorities are not completely at the mercy of those who choose to deny them their basic human rights. Though we still have a long way to go, there's no denying truly how far we've come.    

posted by Talion on May 11, 2005 at 9:53 AM | link to this | reply

You do those things for me and I'll be a patriot
It gets kind of tiring working for a living.  =)

posted by SuccessWarrior on May 11, 2005 at 9:21 AM | link to this | reply

Obviously, racism does exist in America.....
 But that's just a small part of the larger problem our society faces as millions of our hard-working citizens struggle to capture their version of the American Dream.I just finished an interesting, engrossing book by David Shipler called "The Working Poor: Invisible in America" and it left me with even more questions about who is smart enough to come up with solutions to close the gap between those living below the poverty line and a decent life.

posted by shortskirtsrkewl on May 11, 2005 at 9:19 AM | link to this | reply