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I see your point, pappy
so true freedom lies in relinquishment of our rules for finding and having what we think freedom is.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 30, 2005 at 12:40 AM
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metta
yes, the ego cannot help but think to itself, 'I want more.'
posted by
avant-garde
on April 30, 2005 at 12:38 AM
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Not all freedom is helpful, avant
Men seek freedom from all constraints because they wish to make the rules. We are free because of the rules which allow it, and so we worship the rules, and the Ruler.
posted by
pappy
on April 29, 2005 at 8:10 PM
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yes, but it is so extremely difficult to get to this place and remain truly human.... and yet, the easiest thing as well.... if only there was a switch that made us detached at loving at the same time...
posted by
Metta
on April 29, 2005 at 7:34 PM
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great comment, ciel
and that is true. when we see that there is a choice, then we can experience the ego emotions in a more stable way.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 29, 2005 at 4:57 PM
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This is the perpetual cycle between the interests of the body--survival
versus the interests of the spirit-- unencumbered flight! The real trick is to reconcile them, and live the best life one can as one who is both human and being... So I believe...
posted by
Ciel
on April 29, 2005 at 4:19 PM
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there's really no difference, RAME
but it involves choosing between love and fear. it is made very quickly, in the moment of perception. we have been taught to choose fear so regularly that it has become automatic. unconscious. experiencing the feelings of guilt, fear, anger, remorse, sadness, indicates that fear has been chosen.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 29, 2005 at 3:02 PM
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Avant,
I guess your idea of freedom is different than mine. I guess I think that freedom means you have the freedom to make choices or not. God gave us free will for a reason and I feel that we should use our free will in the best way we possibly can. FREE WILL (Get it? Free is in freedom.)
posted by
RAME
on April 29, 2005 at 2:50 PM
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