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May X, that has something to do with closing doors and windows and
maybe adding a bit of security to one's house. It's all very well to have someone come in and clear one's demons, but the responsibility to keep them gone rests with taking some preventive measures. That means learning to protect one's own boundaries, to say no and make it stick... An upcoming post is going to be about this very topic, but it begins with grounding and centering...
Thanks for reading, and for your question!
posted by
Ciel
on April 28, 2005 at 7:05 PM
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Ciel,
I have often pondered the Biblical refernce about a demon leaving a man or "house" and flying through arid spaces looking for rest, finding none, comes back to find the house in perfect order and brings 7 (or so) of it's friends and "the condition of that man is worse than before". Any thoughts?
posted by
Blanche.
on April 28, 2005 at 5:56 PM
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Thanks for the reference, AG!
posted by
Ciel
on April 28, 2005 at 3:59 PM
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Ciel
there's an interesting book written on 'walk-ins' entitled 'Strangers Among Us', by Ruth Montgomery. it describes the scenario as being part of the soul contract. anyway, it was done through automatic writing. i thought someone might be interested in reading it.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 28, 2005 at 3:40 PM
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Possession is a whole 'nother topic...
and all of this is dicey territory as far as popular concept and vocabulary. It overlaps things like channeling and shamanistic practices and the kind of possession described in the Bible, and psychological dynamics that all offer explanations for the same phenomena. All our understanding is filtered through the whole mass of what we have accepted as true and real: that which fits through the little holes in our particular sieve we are inclined to believe.
It becomes confusing to sort out what the words mean, without trading print-outs of our own personal glossaries...
I think I need to devote a new topic to this discussion...
posted by
Ciel
on April 27, 2005 at 4:28 PM
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Ciel and Jeremey -
I have never heard of a soul giving up a body and that body than being inhabited by another soul. But I have heard of souls possessing other bodies with the body's (host) soul still there. In Shamanism, this happens when person has lost part of its soul. A stronger soul can "possess" that body and dominate the host's soul. Soul retrieval is the process for ridding one of a possessed soul and finding and bringing back the lost portions of the host's soul.
posted by
sannhet
on April 27, 2005 at 3:06 PM
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Jeremy, it soundls like you're talking about 'walk-ins'---
entities who 'walk into' a body that has been given up by its original owner. I have never heard of anyone switching off to another body. And one thing to keep in mind is that the original owner is not along for the ride, afterwards: they are gone, probably to some remedial cosmic class on body care and maintenance.
For a soul walk away from a body is like a parent walking away from a child. I am sure there are karmic repercussions for such a drastic act. I am not saying that there is no justification. Only that it is not without consequences on levels we are barely aware of. There are contracts and agreements made to bring body and spirit together in the first place, so I believe to be the case. To walk away is to break those agreements, unless, of course, that was part of the deal. But I would be surprised to learn that such an agreement is a common thing.
posted by
Ciel
on April 27, 2005 at 2:24 PM
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HI Ciel
body or car and hitchhikers,can you give your car or body to a hitchhiker or enter into a new car or body?I have read of a person entered a new body and saying that he had was all that was spoken of it.This seems to be along what your blog has said.Thinking of this,some are more responsible and look after their car or body more honestly with care and for a person to earn the body then destroy by lack of love care,would this not mean another is more deserving of it.but as a car a personwho has purchased it has more ownership then the man walking by .even as the man walking by may take more care of it.I will think of this more,thanks for opening this and the post.
Jeremy
posted by
appleworks7
on April 27, 2005 at 1:24 PM
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Some have great intentions, but no concept of manners...
posted by
Ciel
on April 27, 2005 at 11:04 AM
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Ciel -
A great point! There are those who are not embodied who are not as evolved as we "with body" may be. They won't necessarily lead us astray purposely, but knowing no better, could cause that to happen.
posted by
sannhet
on April 27, 2005 at 10:47 AM
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