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Entrepeneur Maker
thanks for stopping by. by the way, your prayer worked.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 9, 2005 at 2:08 AM
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We are however
As Christians, the Adopted son's of God. We are equal in receiving everything the first born (Jesus) received/receives.
posted by
Entrepreneur_Maker
on April 8, 2005 at 9:47 PM
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hi, RAME
don't apologize. it's good to hear from you. i welcome your disagreement; it's what makes you an individual. unfortunately, we are dealing with words, and semantics here. what i write is interpreted according to the knowledge base of the person who reads it. it is thus very hard to be clear about a lot of things. i am grateful for your input.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 2:42 PM
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flowingchi
no, i haven't gotten it yet. i thought about that a little while ago. thanks for the input, too. i think it is interesting that primitive cultures take a more pantheistic view of deity.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 2:38 PM
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Avant,
I'm sorry to disagree with you but all life is
NOT the Son of God. We are all made in the image of God and we are all His children, but we are not all the Son of God. The Son of God is/was Jesus Christ and only Him. You have some very good thoughts and I don't mean to criticize but I just had to say something. I did enjoy reading your blog and tend to agree with some, or a lot, of it.
posted by
RAME
on April 8, 2005 at 2:38 PM
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HI
Did you get my repsonse about the cd. Anyway this is a good past. I am not sure that the ideal of God would be so limited to only one son.When each culture is different . It would be more open to creating more than one in the way that each culture work. And besides who said the ideal of God is a he or she maybe it is more involve than that and cannot be personlize in such a manner. We alway look to things in relationship to our form. Perhaps it is not. Good post
posted by
flowingchi
on April 8, 2005 at 2:35 PM
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marshallengraved
what difference does it make what Jesus was? Does it change his teaching? Is being right tantamount to being happy? Thinking that is different from the kinds of thoughts that spur anger, antagonism, and hostility do seem irrational. That is because it comes from another place, unlike what seems familiar.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 1:49 PM
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sannhet
many lives, many masters.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 1:48 PM
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the way you think is irationnal
Those concepts are totally built up by Catholic Church...
Jesus of Nazareth was born Jew from a Jewish family and he died as a Jew. Who could deny this?
The rest is a theological debate.
posted by
Marshallengraved
on April 8, 2005 at 12:32 PM
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Avant -
Like you, I think Jesus is one of many Masters who understand that we all have a spark of divinity inside that we can all access and become like him - as he taught us.
posted by
sannhet
on April 8, 2005 at 12:15 PM
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darrke thoughts
you would do well to think on your own. then when you are in the presence of truth, you will recognize it.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 9:14 AM
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metta
i think we can all benefit from Jesus when we go into ourselves and discover truth. i believe that is what all masters teach: not to depend, but let go of using others for our own personal gain.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 9:13 AM
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appleworks
great question, jeremy. the reason it sounds contradictory is because there is a paradox involved in being. the other is there for my experience, but i am the source. salvation comes when we realize that the other is not responsible for the pain in my life, or my lack of love, or my unhappiness. we release them from their dubious role of being our 'savior'. at the same time, when we awaken to this, we have also awakened to the realization that what we give to another, we ourselves experience. when we are love, we experience it by loving others, but we also realize that it comes from within us. that means, basically, that no matter how another reacts to it, it cannot be taken from us. it only increases by our implementing it.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 9:12 AM
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wordsmith
sounds as though you are involved with a noble cause. god bless you.
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 9:09 AM
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readywriter
i'm sorry, i'm not following what you're saying. can you please explain?
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 9:08 AM
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marshallengraved
i'm not sure about the torah, or any other religious history. i was raised to believe that Jesus was God incarnate, who came to 'save' the world. tied into all that, of course, is that you are bad, you cannot do anything about it, and that you must feel ashamed and repent. i did not like people telling me that i was a sinner, when i was watching blatant hypocrisy everywhere I looked. i thought many times, what the hell is going on?
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 9:07 AM
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Good questions. I have been asking myself this lately and am leaning toward the same conclusions.
posted by
DarrkeThoughts
on April 8, 2005 at 8:51 AM
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I believe that Jesus was God on earth... and I believe that your post is beautiful and has much Truth.
Metta
posted by
Metta
on April 8, 2005 at 7:49 AM
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avant-garde
you wrote that giving up our personal salvation we become the christ,I dont understand personal salvation,is this what we do to save ourselves ,in freeing someone else you also recieve a salvation,you may be speaking on saving oneself by using others when giving to others is where your salvation is.can you explain this,
thankyou,appleworks
posted by
appleworks7
on April 8, 2005 at 7:48 AM
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posted by
Wordsmith1979
on April 8, 2005 at 7:46 AM
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Avant-garde -- Yes, Jesus was God's Son, and today's funeral of Pope John Paul II proves it, for only God and His Son, in cooperation with His Spirit could have produced such a production.
posted by
MountainClimber57
on April 8, 2005 at 7:21 AM
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one point ppl seem to forget about...
Jesus was a doctor of Law, of the Torah, a Jewish man and his doctrine has been misinterpreted. He never meant to reject the Torah...from birth to death, he has kept being jewish.
The founder of Christian religion is Paul if you ask me.
posted by
Marshallengraved
on April 8, 2005 at 7:18 AM
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