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Gheeghee
If you truly believe that, then why do you keep reading my stuff? You are once more just trying to pointlessly discredit me. You know for a fact that I bring up some great questions that you are truly lacking any answers for. That is why all you can do in reply to any of my posts is childish discrediting instead of actually focusing on the issue I bring up.
You are the one who seems to say nothing in her comments. Does it really bother you that much to ask questions and think beyond the BS you have been force feed by your church?
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 22, 2005 at 3:24 PM
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people want things to be
rather cut and dried
they want, in the middle of a life that is farught with uncertainties, to feel that certainty exists.
that's bad, because if you believe in certainty and you encounter unceertainty.then your certain world dissolves.
there are people who want there to be the certainty of a plan devised by the Ultimate Mind.
reminds me of The Barr at the End of the Universe -- or something like that -- never read the novels, but viewed some of the PBS series --
it had a computer -- the ultimate computer, called "Deep Thought" (need I tell you who it was named after?) -- people went to it for the ultimate answers to everything.
they asked it about the answer to life and existence and everything when they were able to attain audience with it.
does someone remember what it said? I don't.
anyway that's what the concept of an Ultimate INtelligence with all the ansers, with the Great Plan reminds me of.
do you notice that we continue seeking the answer to everything and never cong up with it?
does anyone have the answer to everything? anyone who claims so deceives themselves.
if god has a plan, does he plan to reveal any of it to anyone?
if god has a plan, is there a pattern to it so we might be able to ascertain something of the next stages of it?
if god has a plan, what in history can give us a hint as to what it might be?
I think everything evolves -- it's very natural, like a tree growing and branching and finding the best places to branch out and extend its roots so it can thrive better.
we know what we know at the moment we know it. that's the best we or anything in the universe can do.
posted by
Xeno-x
on March 22, 2005 at 1:43 PM
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God's plan
God is within you, but you have a choice as to what you believe. that's what makes random events seem random. if i live my life believing that 'i' exist separate from everything, including God, then i will question the meaning of life and what God wants. but he is not really there, but actually a split off portion of my own mind, which i believe lies outside of me. we create what we experience here. the world is the effect of those creations, not the cause for our disowning them.
posted by
avant-garde
on March 22, 2005 at 11:37 AM
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Hi Kooka, you still here?... hope you find him. Best wishes, (AbeLincoln/CarolynMoe).
posted by
cmoe
on March 22, 2005 at 8:30 AM
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If you don't believe in God, Kooka, why do you care so much what His plan is? If you want answers, that's one thing. If you want to stir it up and cause trouble, then you are worthless. Nothing you present here is useful. Everything you present here serves nothing.
posted by
Gheeghee
on March 22, 2005 at 6:09 AM
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chrysalis
Those are the kind of comments I like to see. Honest and no dancing around the issue.
Now if that is true, then do you agree that those who use the term 'It is part of God's plan' when someone dies are just trying to find justification for the death?
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 21, 2005 at 3:49 PM
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i d
ont believe the Bible teaches that death is part of Gods plan. In other words He does not determine or plan the tragic and untimely death of a person. Rather, He offers protection from the evils of the world. Read Psalm 91.
The problem as I see it is the Bible has been interpreted so many ways and so many doctrines have been built from it, few people really know what the Bible really teaches about God and His ways.
posted by
chrysalis
on March 21, 2005 at 3:14 PM
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