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Hmm, it's all so interesting.
I've just begun doing massage and was worried about depleting myself because I've developed illness myself. Seems though that I feel really good after giving the massage. Very cool. Where I'm having troubles, is with my honey. I got sick after he got sick. I believe there's definitely a link. And I don't think my core self is quite rational about it all. The one's we love, right.
Funny, I just read your About Me. Prior, I'd had this idea you were young Ciel, in your twenties, with a whole lot of knowledge, calmness, and positive sureness. I see that you have kids with families! Now I must change mental image of Ciel. Or perhaps that is the way you are energetically? You went to a Psychic school? How cool is that?
posted by
Oceandancer
on March 20, 2005 at 6:09 AM
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Oceandancer, Yes, healing can be a problem if we don't care with care...
Grounding and centering, staying neutral, and them afterwards, taking the time to sit down and sort out the energies--yours from theirs-- All useful things to remember and bother to do when healing. You know if you're tired after a healing session that you are trying to run on someone else's energy, and it's blocking your own. It's working right when you end up feeling charged and healed yourself!
posted by
Ciel
on March 19, 2005 at 10:10 AM
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Tres cool, Ciel.
Is that what I'm doing? Well, I've noticed, we're all one, right, that's how I can do this, but we're also all separate...each wave of the ocean is its own self, yet still part of the ocean. So when I come back I have insight, but I am not the other person, don't retain them. I haven't done this in awhile because I can't keep myself neutral lately. Key.
Hmm, problem with taking on another person's "stuff," though is when helping with healing. I get empathic, feel their stuff, and tend to retain in. Must do the grounding and centreing for that!
posted by
Oceandancer
on March 18, 2005 at 6:22 AM
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Oceandancer, Am I right in thinking that your goal is to check a thing out
by matching your energy to it? I think I 'read' from where I sit, what you are going to 'feel'-- that you perceive by going to the focus point instead of being where you are and looking at it from there.
The neutrality is the key: getting your own stuff and any other stuff out of the way so you can be aware of what is really there.
I could talk about reasons not to become what one is checking out, but unless you are having any difficulty sorting out the energies when you come back, it is probably not an issue. By grounding first, and setting your own energy at neutral, you have looked after yourself well, and I think, created an experience that is neither dangerous for you, nor invasive for the focus.
Do you do a similar energy check and adjustment when you finish?
posted by
Ciel
on March 17, 2005 at 11:11 AM
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Hey, Ciel...er...I'm curious to talk with you about time and spirit side.
I've been able to, in the past anyway, to..argh. There just aren't appropriate words or images already established.
Okay, so, calm, meditate, centre, flow out with mind neutral. Flow out to whatever focus I have chosen, whether other person, me, situation. Flow out and feel the energy of the life, situation, connections to me. Can go, mmm, haven't really gone forward in time except in knowing what choices are most promising, but have traveled back. Time travel if you will.
It's all about neutrally becoming aware of the energy of whatever it is I'm exploring.
Now I talk to people about this and all I get is they think I'm nuts. If I go to all new agey forums, they still don't get it and think I'm nuts. I'm like, what the @#$#? You, Ciel. I'm pretty sure you will understand what I'm talking about. I'm hoping anyway.
posted by
Oceandancer
on March 17, 2005 at 4:35 AM
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Yes, I agree with you there, Pappy!
Noted for his way with women, too...
posted by
Ciel
on March 16, 2005 at 9:14 AM
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I always likes Kokopelli, Ciel
He seemed closer to the human heart.
posted by
pappy
on March 16, 2005 at 7:23 AM
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DarkeThoughts, I agree! I'd much prefer being among the Chosen of someone
with a sense of humor, too!
posted by
Ciel
on March 15, 2005 at 7:21 PM
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I like the Grandmother spider paradigm...solve a puzzle, get a little more information, another puzzle. It's much more empowering than the "step out of line and get zapped" idea.
posted by
DarrkeThoughts
on March 15, 2005 at 7:08 PM
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Sannhet, I always enjoy that little 'click!' when one paradigm fits with
another, and I can see what translates exactly and what's different. Sometimes only the words are different!
posted by
Ciel
on March 15, 2005 at 3:18 PM
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A-G, how could we see them if they didn't have something in common
with us? Especially when the ancient peoples had such potent examples of individuals possessed of overwhelming power-- the conquerors and city-bulders of the day-- their concept of a personified god had those same attributes of power. It is interesting to note that enve now, people who perceive God as a father-figure, in some part of their mind, create their picture of him in their own biological father's image.
Beings without bodies are more like beams of light: they put on the illusion of body so we can relate to the personal side of their nature.
posted by
Ciel
on March 15, 2005 at 3:16 PM
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Ciel -
I'm with you know. I learned about grounding and centering in a little different way, but I think the effect is the same. When I began journeying via shamanic approaches, I was taught to ground myself to assure I could return. Centering was done to assure I had the energy I needed to deal with what came up during my journeys.
posted by
sannhet
on March 15, 2005 at 3:03 PM
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gods
it seems odd to me that we give our gods the same traits that we ourselves carry around. might this be a hint that it lies in our own imagination?
posted by
avant-garde
on March 15, 2005 at 2:59 PM
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