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That sounds good, Kooka
And in most cases it is probably right, but there are also plenty of cases where really bad kids seem to come out of good homes. Kids whose brothers and sisters turn out just fine, whose parents love them and try hard. It would be easy to say it's always the parents fault, in fact loving mothers usually believe they did something wrong, but they are not sure what. I wish the world WERE as simple as you make it.

posted by pappy on March 13, 2005 at 6:23 PM | link to this | reply

Gheeghee
Okay, I have all of those is abundance. Do you have a point?

posted by kooka_lives on March 13, 2005 at 3:00 PM | link to this | reply

pappy
If I do my job right, then my child should have enough respect in himself at this level that he will know better. He might experiment, but in the end I will have taught him through the simple level of discipline to think about his actions and I will have to trust his judgment if I feel I have done this right. It still ends up being my fault if I do not trust his actions and help him to have the self respect (Something which I do not feel is taught at all by the Biblical idea of God) and discipline to make the right choices. I truly doubt he will become a freeloader because I will teach him early on through my examples that such if not the right thing. But no mater what happens, I will always be willing to give him another chance. I am not going to tell him what is right and what is wrong. I am going to instead teach him and help him to see how to make the right judgment calls and to trust in himself to do that. If he becomes a teenagers and has no respect for me and ends up being a total screw-up, then I did something wrong when he was younger. All the total screw-ups I know really had parents who did a piss poor job of teaching the kids when they were young, because the damage is already done before they become teenagers.

posted by kooka_lives on March 13, 2005 at 2:59 PM | link to this | reply

justA
I so hope you never have kids if you are going to raise them that way. They need structure. If I waited for him to be ready for bed, he would never get any sleep. He would pass out in front of the TV every night, and not end up with a full night's sleep. Sorry, but a good parent has go tot set down rules and follow those rules. No matter how much I would like to be easy on him, I can't be.
I have already seen where the kind of parenting you are talking about lead and those have been about the biggest screw ups I have ever known.

posted by kooka_lives on March 13, 2005 at 2:51 PM | link to this | reply

gheeghee

are people sent to Hell?

you know -- burning for all eternity?

where "only those with mortal sin on their souls" go.

a "place of 'everlasting punishment'"

and what is Hell like?

"There is a place in Hell called Malegolge, all of stone, and of an iron colour, like the barrier which winds round it.

Right in the middle of the malignant field yawns a well exceeding wide and deep, whose structure I shall tell in its own place"  -- Dante's Divine Comedy, Inferno, Canto  XVIII, from which many visions of Hell arise.

posted by Xeno-x on March 13, 2005 at 12:48 PM | link to this | reply

In the end three things remain: FAITH, HOPE, LOVE. If you have none of these, then what is left of you? That's hell, my friend...spiritual death.

posted by Gheeghee on March 13, 2005 at 11:19 AM | link to this | reply

Raising children is a good example, Kooka
But normal little children do not reject their parents. It is only when they 'come of age' whenever that is. The relationship between a parent and the eighteen year old is what we are dealing with here. If your son hangs with people you don't like, maybe does drugs and has a violent streak, how are you going to deal with him? Isn't throwing him out of the house because you are tired of his freeloading the same as telling him to go to hell? You would still love him, but you would welcome him back only if he changed his ways. How is that substantially different than what God promises?

posted by pappy on March 13, 2005 at 9:24 AM | link to this | reply

kooka

I do not dress for bed…when I am not ready…and nor do you. Take your son and see the movie…no conditions. Life here…is to short. Who knows when it will end…for one, or for all. Live kooka…go live…

Just my thoughts…

posted by justAcarpenter on March 13, 2005 at 12:37 AM | link to this | reply